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  1. #11
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    MOZZYSTAR's Avatar
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    Amon Kujaku
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    Zalera
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 8
    Quote Originally Posted by whiteblade89 View Post
    I got way more comms when I used to main ninja back in HW. Now that I main samurai, I get significantly less. But hey, it's to be expected when Goad is the best you can give someone. Also, samurai are always the last ones to be rezzed, in my experience. Which also makes sense, to a degree. Sucks to suck, I guess lol
    /Shrug
    The Last Samurai
    (As a healer, I definitely think I'm at fault at this. While I try to rez the ones who've been waiting the longest, I will definitely choose to heal a healer, summoner, or red mage before any other class as they can help me. XD I don't even think of bard giving MP/TP regens, and like... I play bard as well, LOL. I wouldn't say SAM sucks, though.)
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  2. #12
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    Kallera's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Etoile Kallera
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 60
    As a dps class(SAM), I often get complaints that we are always the one to die often.

    Doesn’t help that many endgame fights nowadays seem to favor mechanics that kill a dps in 2-3 hits, if not killing us outright, there are 4 dps in any given party, and it is on us to perform flawlessly due to the hard enrage...
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  3. #13
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    Derio's Avatar
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    Character
    Derio Uzumaki
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Its because SAM offers no utility. So there is a high pressure to play well. If you play SAM and are playing anywhere near below par, you are hurting the group. That is why SAM gets judged so hard. BLM has mana shift so they arent set to the high standard of SAM but they are up there.

    However people do treat you different jobs. DRK compared to WAR and PLD in leveling roulette. Remember the hate MCH got before SB. Remember PLD all through 3.x

    How could we forget 4.0 WHM?

    Most people treat you different due to balance reasons.
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  4. #14
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    Aomine1992's Avatar
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    Character
    Daiki Sejuro
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 80
    Well to be fair any subpar dps in endgame gets the scrutiny...but yes SAMs have to be better than better if that makes since, to make up for the fact that they offer little to nothing to the party besides their own personal dps...
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  5. #15
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    Cerbolt's Avatar
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    Ishgard
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    Character
    Ryujin Kogane
    World
    Twintania
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 100
    I usually get compliments on my sam because I aoe which is kinda sad tbh. Are sams notorious for not aoeing? Also I've noticed people tend to be a bit more judgemental when I'm playing healer or tank.
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  6. #16
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    Ilan's Avatar
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    Kurumii Tokisakii
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by MaethusXion View Post
    I remember during HW I'd have healers not healing me on DRG for the meme, even when I'm taking less individual damage and most of the time what was killing me were room-wide unavoidable AoEs combined with the meme-maker healers...

    Haven't had that problem with RDM or SAM though.


    But honesly i didn't have what the op described yet, some people have their prejudices like: DRG always jump into AOE's, NIN can't do AOE DMG and so on. But thats most of the time just BS and people are a bit stupid to believe these meme's and rumors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Good talk, all. Glad we had it.
    暗闇の力#7805

  7. #17
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    RLofOBFL's Avatar
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    Character
    Lala Yuki
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 70
    To put it bluntly, it's more than the lack of raid buffs, SAM are notorious for being bad. I can count on one hand the number of SAM that have done impressive numbers in my parties. The vaaaaast majority do extremely sub par damage and die quite a lot. Granted, it's a stereotype, but a prevalent and backed up one.
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  8. #18
    Player Okamimaru's Avatar
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    Ul Dah
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    Character
    Rastiana Bel'briar
    World
    Malboro
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 90
    I've never paid much attention... I know I'm a terrible healer, a mediocre tank and a damn fine melee dps (SAM life)... feels like coms are low all around lately... but I usually get at least one per run (unless the party was total garbage and hostile throughout, you know the kind)...
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  9. #19
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    Sylvina's Avatar
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    Sylvina Eon
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    Exodus
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    I think people hate SAM becuase of all the COMPLETELY AWFUL SAM players we saw at the start of Stormblood. But to be fair people were still figuring out the class then.
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  10. #20
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    Jijifli Kokofli
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 55
    Quote Originally Posted by Cerbolt View Post
    I usually get compliments on my sam because I aoe which is kinda sad tbh. Are sams notorious for not aoeing? Also I've noticed people tend to be a bit more judgemental when I'm playing healer or tank.
    SAM's are more notorious for trying to do as many Midare's as possible, instead of how much damage they can do. SAM's are more common to not aoe though, from what I've seen.
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