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  1. #1931
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    I dunno about this new race, maybe first they should develop a new, more detailed character creation in 5.0, its 2018 just look the other mmos, this is so out of date
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  2. #1932
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corue View Post
    Out of the 6 races 2.5 of them are tall. Also how is 6 foot not tall?
    What would be the problem with striking a balance? If we had Viera we'd have 3.5 'short' races and 3.5 'tall' ones.
    That said, I think the problem for most people seems to be more bodytype rather than height. (If height was the problem, why don't we see more people campaign for shorter male races? We pretty much have only one option for those)
    Roegadyn are crazy tall, Elezen have somewhat Alien proportions and people sometimes just don't wanna play typical humans. I can understand why people want another option.


    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard View Post
    I still say Viera are overrated and I want Gria.



    ...But both would be fine too.
    Hmm, not trying to mock the Idea, but considering one of the main points people bring up against Viera is that they'd just be 'Miqo'te but with Rabbitears', wouldn't Gria not just be Au Ra but with useless Wings?
    I mean, I get that Gria are presented as more 'badass' in FFTA2 versus the (female) Au Ra here, but if there were options to make more 'unruly' female Au Ra (think Sadu) I think they wouldn't seem so different.
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  3. #1933
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArcaneCarbuncle View Post
    Hmm, not trying to mock the Idea, but considering one of the main points people bring up against Viera is that they'd just be 'Miqo'te but with Rabbitears', wouldn't Gria not just be Au Ra but with useless Wings?
    I mean, I get that Gria are presented as more 'badass' in FFTA2 versus the (female) Au Ra here, but if there were options to make more 'unruly' female Au Ra (think Sadu) I think they wouldn't seem so different.
    Yea, they might be somewhat redundant as an extra race... However, could always add extra clans/subraces/whatever and make them a type of Au Ra that exist in Ivalice.
    And speaking of extra subraces, mixed Miqo'tes when? Since they are a thing in the lore of 14...


    But still, Viera's are overrated.
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  4. #1934
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard View Post
    Yea, they might be somewhat redundant as an extra race... However, could always add extra clans/subraces/whatever and make them a type of Au Ra that exist in Ivalice.
    And speaking of extra subraces, mixed Miqo'tes when? Since they are a thing in the lore of 14...


    But still, Viera's are overrated.
    so you want another version of Miqote but you say viera are overrated...
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  5. #1935
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArcaneCarbuncle View Post




    Hmm, not trying to mock the Idea, but considering one of the main points people bring up against Viera is that they'd just be 'Miqo'te but with Rabbitears', wouldn't Gria not just be Au Ra but with useless Wings?
    I mean, I get that Gria are presented as more 'badass' in FFTA2 versus the (female) Au Ra here, but if there were options to make more 'unruly' female Au Ra (think Sadu) I think they wouldn't seem so different.
    The most common complaint I hear is that it'd just be another humanoid race with animal appendages attached. If we look at the original design for Au Ra, they were much more bestial, but they ended up becoming humans with horns and scales. Like Miqo'te are humans with cat ears and tails. Viera would just end up being humans with bunny ears... If we actually look at these races, there isn't much variety among them.
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  6. #1936
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elliebird View Post
    The most common complaint I hear is that it'd just be another humanoid race with animal appendages attached. If we look at the original design for Au Ra, they were much more bestial, but they ended up becoming humans with horns and scales. Like Miqo'te are humans with cat ears and tails. Viera would just end up being humans with bunny ears... If we actually look at these races, there isn't much variety among them.
    The trick is to add some cool background flavour lore to the races to sell them. Like how the Argonians would just be another reptile race....if they weren't drinking the sap of sentient hive minden trees that buff the hell out of them when a war is near. None of this comes up in gameplay of course, but knowing this makes the race awesome. SE could learn from this. The current playable races are kinda bland
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  7. #1937
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balipu View Post
    The trick is to add some cool background flavour lore to the races to sell them. Like how the Argonians would just be another reptile race....if they weren't drinking the sap of sentient hive minden trees that buff the hell out of them when a war is near. None of this comes up in gameplay of course, but knowing this makes the race awesome. SE could learn from this. The current playable races are kinda bland
    Agreed. After doing the Azim Steppe storyline, I regret not making this character a Xaela. It's the culture and story that sells races, even if physically they aren't that different. I can understand where people are coming from though. When it comes to MMOs, it feels like you can never have enough options. Being able to pick from different races is one of my favorite features in games.
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  8. #1938
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArcaneCarbuncle View Post
    What would be the problem with striking a balance? If we had Viera we'd have 3.5 'short' races and 3.5 'tall' ones.
    I'm saying it's silly to say we lack tall female races when they're almost half of the races.
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  9. #1939
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elliebird View Post
    Agreed. After doing the Azim Steppe storyline, I regret not making this character a Xaela. It's the culture and story that sells races, even if physically they aren't that different. I can understand where people are coming from though. When it comes to MMOs, it feels like you can never have enough options. Being able to pick from different races is one of my favorite features in games.
    Not to mention fooling around in the character creation, I love doing that lol
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  10. #1940
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corue View Post
    I'm saying it's silly to say we lack tall female races when they're almost half of the races.
    Its still a "lack" since it's less
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