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  1. #91
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruf View Post
    From your standing point of view & I am not your bro.
    From many ASTs standing point of view. It is generally not a good idea to have double diurnal. Just like double Noct is just as bad, too. Just as it's common sense to go Diurnal for SCHs, and Noct for WHMs. It's much more efficient for the party as a whole.
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  2. #92
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    Malora Lyra
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    Re: Excog—I understand the pains. :c At least they changed it to where it goes off regardless after the timer expires. Sucks if it’s an overheal though...
    The pain is real and same. Sometimes I will let my cohealer solo if that’s what they want to do and i’ll Just do support type roles if needed and dps. I’m pretty open to doing anything if people talk with me. I have my freak out overheal moments but normally when I’m new/learning a fight. After a couple times of running it I’m usually more mindful and less panic mode.
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  3. #93
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    Shiru Elysia
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    Don't even want to think how those both diurnal Ast are playing their cards haha.

    That aoe totally uneedeed bole or WORSE, aoe spire overwriting your aoe extended balance.
    Rip.
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  4. #94
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    Soma Kagami
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    In a game where teamwork and cooperation is incredibly valued and necessary to get content cleared efficiently, how on earth does one think it's okay that "competing" with the other healer is somehow more important than adjusting towards your co-healer and making sure that you're both not only shielding & healing efficiently, but keeping an uptime on DPS as well to benefit the entire party?

    I hate healing myself, but I've seen the notable differences made between two healers that "get" each other completely versus one or both that don't know what the hell they're doing. If your healers aren't synchronized with each other and covering each other's shortcomings while also playing to each other's strengths, the party chemistry suffers a lot not to mention the ratio of clearing something. You can't clear efficiently (without having panic attacks) if your healers are both dead or when one only knows what they're doing correctly.
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    Last edited by Sigma-Astra; 05-28-2018 at 01:34 PM.

  5. #95
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    That is unfortunate, but even if the game is labeled as a MMO, Square-Enix also communicated around it as being an experience you can do alone (so pretty much experiencing at least the storyline as any other FF games).
    And that's why we have a lot of players thinking individually, forgetting to learn to play as a team.
    It doesn't justify their behavior I know, but this be a root of the problem.
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  6. #96
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaloraYuki View Post
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    I wish more healers were like you and Hyomin ;-; it sucks being a stickler for overhealing (even though I’m still trying to break the habit), because I usually end up the one backing off when too much healing is going out ;^; I end up missing healing, even though I’m on a healer lol.
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  7. #97
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    Riyah Arpeggio
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    I dunno if noct is all that great. Aspected benefic, diurnal wins out, because it works out to be 5000 + 12500 or so with shield, but 5000 + 6 tics at 3000ish potency, so 17500 to 23000. And thats if you get the heal of the benefic itself. I don't know about noct helios...i mean, again, shield vs regen usually regen mitigates far more. This is why emergency tactics is junk on a SCH; the actual HP healed is very inefficient when its all HP compared to indom or even fey wind. For two asts you used sects mostly because regens wouldnt stack.

    I mean, the benefit of a shield is burning MP to prevent extremely heavy sustained hits, but one of the signs of a bad SCH is relying way too much on shields as healing over abilities both aetherflow and SCH. Adlo gets useful since it can be spread, but succor is just garbage overall.
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    Last edited by RiyahArp; 05-28-2018 at 01:58 PM.

  8. #98
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    I could say the same thing to all the healers who insist on using Helios, Medica, Succor, Indom, etc., when I already have Medica II or A. Helios HOTs rolling that will top the group off. (Actually, few things annoy me so viscerally, because I judge my own performance in large part by my %overhealed.) Funnily enough, I find myself using the AOE HOT spells less and less because of the apparently reflexive need to top everyone off, right now!!!1!
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  9. #99
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trunks View Post
    I could say the same thing to all the healers who insist on using Helios, Medica, Succor, Indom, etc., when I already have Medica II or A. Helios HOTs rolling that will top the group off. (Actually, few things annoy me so viscerally, because I judge my own performance in large part by my %overhealed.) Funnily enough, I find myself using the AOE HOT spells less and less because of the apparently reflexive need to top everyone off, right now!!!1!
    100% agree if a regen is ticking let it tick. No reason to heal over someone else’s healing it just wastes your mp and theirs. Plus is super frustrating when you’re the person being healed over.
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    This is all I have to say about that AST sect debate...
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