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  1. #11
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    LittleChickenNugget's Avatar
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    Hana Kaneuchi
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    Midgardsormr
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    Scholar Lv 80
    ITT: The best healer in all of Eorzea.
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  2. #12
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    KageTokage's Avatar
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Cactuar
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Overhealing is a surprisingly common thing, even among healers who've cleared Sigmascape Savage from my experience. I've actually run into multiple WHMs who didn't use Medica II at all and mostly spammed Cure III.

    Knowing how much damage is incoming and keeping people just above the kill threshold for the next AoE is one of the marks of a skilled healer and they reward it by boosting your LB gauge faster.
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  3. #13
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    DBriggs304's Avatar
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    Uldah
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    Fu Soya
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    Excalibur
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    Red Mage Lv 55
    If the healer keeps everyone alive, dont worry about how they do it.
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  4. #14
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    EnaChleo's Avatar
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    Ena Chleo
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 60
    I feel the practice comes from scholars using whispering dawn a lot, though whispering dawn is free and doesn't interrupt your GCD

    There are situations where it might be useful, like if you see actual AoE damage, but I'd generally just use a cure 2 after the fact, save the enmity and MP if it's just the tank

    Largesse + Regen or Asylum + Regen feels a lot more economical when there are rocks to be thrown!!!
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  5. #15
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    Ein Vaer
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    Excalibur
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    Scholar Lv 90
    MRW the healer puts medica II on the entire party and regen on me before I double pull.

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  6. #16
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90
    Healer forums are that way ----->

    On topic to all the healers that do that pre-pull:

    (6)
    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

  7. #17
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    Yenyen's Avatar
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    Zhenif Amberry
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    Phoenix
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.
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  8. #18
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    Jellybums's Avatar
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    Azuko Kouen
    World
    Hyperion
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    Gladiator Lv 81
    When a healer spams Medica II, I just think they don't know the fight well coz you never know how skilled your group is so you shouldn't be wasting MP like that.
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    Nephthys Yamada
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    I think its fair to say I don't want the OP healing in my party.

    I do not trust him. Not one bit.

    Better an overhealer than a "reactive" healer who is too late.

    If they know the fight well enough - fine.

    But telling people to stop using because its too much? Even for aggro? The aggro thing I can get. A great many people already know this strangely enough. But you discouraging its use to be economical? What?

    It's bad enough I don't see white mages ever using Medica II (Never mind Esuna) - No thanks. I'll pass on your so called advise based on your lack of experience.

    As its been said...if the party survives...and no one is wiped out. I'll take that over a lazy mage who doesn't heal. ( A complaint I've been receiving from my members who do random roulette these days)
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    Last edited by NephthysVasudan; 05-28-2018 at 12:23 AM.

  10. #20
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    Gemina Lunarian
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    I've yet to see a non-trolling healer use Medica 2 pre pull, and pre pull regen usually happens when it is mistimed and used towards the end of a trash smash. Obviously, we all have different experiences, but generally speaking both tank and healer pretty much have to deliberately work against each other for agro to become a mess. If your healer is spamming their AoE heal when the dmg doesn't warrant it, you are likely being trolled. Boot this healer if they don't listen to reason.

    Pre pull regen is also actually a good thing on bosses as tanks typically open with an enmity skill, and its auto attacks start getting up healed immediately and can spare them using a CD at the start when bosses just love to follow up an auto attack with a skill.

    Furthermore, every healer has a threshold, and this is not set in stone. Some won't start healing until health is below 50%, others like to keep their party near full HP, especially if they don't know what's coming. Gauge how much it is actually a problem if they are over healing, and choose your battles. If putting up a fuss is counter-productive, then it might be best to just let it go.
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