1.20 this week?

[Mug]

First November 24th was set as The Official "Late November"-day, now people assume that the developers have a crystal ball they aren't willing to share with us.

They know just as much as you do.

Can you please explain to me when "roughly ten days after late-november" is? That's what I mean by vague. And of course they have a tentative date.

I never mentioned the November 24 thing, so please leave me out of that.

[Betelgeuzah]

Can you please explain to me when "roughly ten days after late-november" is? That's what I mean by vague. And of course they have a tentative date.

Tentative date which might be completely off.

Now answer me this: What exactly would they benefit from less vague dates when in fact only the topic of bitching would change? From "what do they mean by <vague date>" to "they broke their prommise!!1" when the tentative date doesn't hold after all.

It's all about preferences, there is no right strategy.

Nov. 30th is as late November as you can get, so Dec. 10th isn't a bad estimate based on what SE has stated so far.

Saturday, eh.

[Mug]

Tentative date which might be completely off.

Now answer me this: What exactly would they benefit from less vague dates when in fact only the topic of bitching would change? From "what do they mean by <vague date>" to "they broke their prommise!!1" when the tentative date doesn't hold after all.

People will "bitch" either way, but then I don't think people are bitching half as much as people like yourself like to point out. I see nothing wrong with some healthy discussion as long as people are polite.

Anyway, if I was Yoshida I would first and foremost give myself more time to get a patch out. And if, by chance, they get it ready earlier, they could release it ahead of time and we'd all be cheering them on instead of getting annoyed that they're delaying stuff again.

I also think that when he decides to give us an idea about when something is coming out, he could use terms like "sometime between the 10th and 20th of December" rather than saying stuff like "roughly ten days after late-november". It's not the first time he has done this. It all started with the infamous "before the end of summer".

This is not me "bitching". I'm just coming up with suggestions that would, in my opinion, help the situation.