Other MMOs that you think ARE ACTUALLY BETTER?

[Darric]

I'll make it short:
As long as MMOs are places where people are able to flame, judge even good/nice players by 1 thing/bashing them, and develop elitistic attitude...
There will not be a better MMO, at least not for me.


I tried a handful of MMOs but being nice, helpful and assisting players only to get your own butt kicked in return was the reward for interacting.
And I thought any MMO was supposed to be fun with other people.


How very naive it was of me, I know.
But please: I am serious about this post, give it some thought (if you got a heart) if you decide to reply.

[Fhaerron]

I'm surprised nobody said Runescape yet.


Back in early 2000 everybody was saying it was the best game ever made and will forever be the best game.

[hynaku]

ffxi and the elder scrolls online think is way better than ffxiv. both have a way bigger world and offer more than ffxiv.

[The_Promised]

Tibia 2.0 better open world, pvp enforced, pks, community. Diablo 2 isn't a MMO but was better. Elder Scrolls Online have a better house system. You can have one small house, one medium house and one mansion and you buy it on game store cash shop, that's avoid the gill sellers, also have more solo content and funny/simple gameplay but isn't better after all. Black Desert isn't better but have a better graphics, butt slize and funny gameplay. GTA V isn't a MMO but people should learn with rockstar what is a
open world content. In terms of graphics ESO and BDO are really better than FF XIV. I would like to look like the people that appear on ff xiv cinematics, Isn't a excuse today, because on The Witcher 3, Metal Gear V they look really close to the cinematic. In terms of char designs the witcher 2 have a better char designs than xiv.

[Nabril]

none that I can think of

[KaldeaSahaline]

Games are addictive, trollish raiders tell players to spoil the game for themselves or don't play at all. So please nope out of this thread before it becomes 50 pages of trolls justifying their cheat use and abusive nature towards everyone.

Heh, the irony of you calling raiders "trollish" is pretty funny. You're the one who is coming off very "trollish" with your grandiose claims and misinformation.

Then to top it all off, you proceed to dismiss me because I don't agree with your viewpoint. The irony is staggeringly unreal here.

For the sake of everyone here - instead of replying with some trite nonsense, can you simply admit you were wrong. Nothing else needs to be said.

I'll make it short:
As long as MMOs are places where people are able to flame, judge even good/nice players by 1 thing/bashing them, and develop elitistic attitude...
There will not be a better MMO, at least not for me.

I tried a handful of MMOs but being nice, helpful and assisting players only to get your own butt kicked in return was the reward for interacting.
And I thought any MMO was supposed to be fun with other people.

How very naive it was of me, I know.
But please: I am serious about this post, give it some thought (if you got a heart) if you decide to reply.

Context is paramount. You may *think* you're being helpful, but you may not be. Other times even the most helpful insight is undesired. Obviously I wasn't there for your personal experiences so I don't have a ton of input, but the only toxicity I normally see in game is someone not putting equivalent effort in. I don't ask that everyone be as strong of a player as I am, but if we're matched I expect you to try your best. That doesn't mean pushing 1 button over and over, or waiting 10-15s between GCDs, or tunneling ST on groups of mobs, etc.

The other bit is that not everyone derives fun from the same thing. For instance, you may find dungeons fun, but I find them trivially boring, so when i do them, I don't want it to be a 45 minute adventure. I want it over and done.

[Disappoint]

The original Guild Wars up until Eye of the North is still the be all end all best for this genre, and it wasn't even a proper MMO.

WoW during classic, TBC, early Wrath and Pandaria was also more enjoyable IMO. That's about it.

[REPROBEAN_CHILD]

If there isn't an mmo game that truely isn't better than FFXIV, I think it speaks volumes of the state of mmos in general. Admittedly, I haven't dove into as many mmos as some of you have, despite being an FFXIV player for over 3 years. From what I've been seeing, though, the mmo genre has been on a decline for a few years. Some games either died out within 2 to 5 years or new releases weren't as good as the games that came before them and don't get enough traction. I'm sure there are mmos that do some things better than FFXIV, but I currently don't see myself switching over to anything else.

One basic thing I appreciated about FFXIV is the fact I can give my character an actual name. I can create a character, name her "Lucienne Beauvilliers," and start my journey. Compare that to Tera, where I have to make a username that must include numbers or special characters (Lucienne.9884) and Skyforge, which forces players to use a PSN username and can't name anything. Handling names that way ruined immersion for both games and only made me appreciate FFXIV's handling of a character's identity more. And despite that Black Desert looks visually better, it doesn't really matter, since FFXIV has it's own unique, amazing art style. In fact, one could say Black Desert's art is typical of that of a Korean mmo, whereas FFXIV's is only typical to Final Fantasy.

What I'm saying is atm, FFXIV has been regarded as one of the best of the genre and probably for a good reason. Atm, I don't feel compelled to switch it for any mmo