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    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    Stop with the hyperboles, not wanting a fetch quest doesn't mean people want instant unlock, nor it means people should play a different game. If that fetch quest was made a separate side quest you would have got your obscure reference and no one would have had to suffer through a poorly done fetch quest, that's what people are asking for here.
    What hyperbole? It's very odd that accusing me of using them - I'm not the one overreacting about a simple, easily accomplished fetch quest. If you're concerned about hyperbole then I have no doubt that you'll elaborate on the matter and quote each and every poster complaining about the quest. Thankfully I can take comfort in the righteousness of my cause - the entire quest chain is a love letter to fans of Ivalice. It was never advertised as anything different.
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    Single fetch quest that makes sense given the lore, people lose their mind.

    Pull it together.
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    You are overreacting over what people are saying, repeating myself: not wanting a fetch quest with no lore value doesn't mean people want instant unlock, nor it means people should play a different game.
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  4. #104
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    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    You are overreacting over what people are saying, repeating myself: not wanting a fetch quest with no lore value doesn't mean people want instant unlock.
    It has lore value, though. I already explained why over the course of the last few pages. Some of those complaining by their own admission in other threads don't even care for the lore to begin with, thus they're arguing for the sake of arguing. Furthermore simply taking a look through the post history of certain posters reveals that most of their posts are complaints about the game. I'm not about to tell people what they should enjoy, yet at the same time I can only assume this is not the game for them if a single fetch quest riles them up so much.
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    Right, well be sure to report back come 5.0, which will be filled to the brim with "meaningless" fetch quests. It's like, have you ever played RPGs before? This is their bread and butter.
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    And I disagree, it has no lore value and it would have been better contained as an optional side quest, it doesn't further the plot about ridorana. As an optional side quest you would get your fanboy love letter and no one else has to suffer through it to unlock the raid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    It wasn't 'disrespectful'. If it inspires such anger and frustration then might I suggest finding another game to play? It's really being blown out of proportion.

    Then you missed the reason it provoke such reaction from me and other because this is not the first, not the second, or third time they're doing it. And not only they keep doing it, they're rubbing it in with the in game dialogue every time. And I know you gonna ignore it again so let me bold-phase it again: the problem is more than just it being a fetch quest.

    I noticed the pattern of your response, you just cherry pick one particular area each post and counter it one at a time, this does make it sounds like the grievance looks like over reaction. If that's how you want to game than you will not understand what some of us are saying, this is a case where the sum is greater than the parts.

    It is, after all, an RPG. Perhaps some 'instant unlock' potions can be sold on the Mog Station for people such as yourself, though?
    - You preached to the wrong person pal. I went through the MSQ in 2.0 on three different characters, 2 I took onward, my main have every thing save 2 classes at 70 and the alt cover the rest with some duplicate 70. And this was before any "potion" was released. Being a dedicated player doesn't mean I can't point out poorly designed quest.

    - And in the very same post I made that you quote, I already said it has nothing to do with how long/short the quest is, so I doubt you even read what you're responding but rather just go with your assumption. First you said it's because it's relevant because of an obscured reference, now you say it's because it's an RPG? What excuse you gonna come up next. A poorly design quest is a poorly design quest, regardless of the reason behind it. The quest can be 10x times as long and no one would mind even if it's only twice as entertaining.
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    OK listen gvien the current 24 man situation I'd say that a single fetch quest horrendously placed in the questline is HARDLY the greater problem right now considering how terrible and unrewarding the whole alliance raids are now.
    Frankly while I agree that the quest was not great for non lorebuff and placed horrendously to the point it broke the tempo of the story. The whole outrage coming out of it isn't really necessary especially since you can just say as a feedback that they should not do this anymore if they want to add a bit of lore to the alliance raid story they should simply add it as a separate quest and not a necessary quest to proceed into the raid
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    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    And I disagree, it has no lore value and it would have been better contained as an optional side quest, it doesn't further the plot about ridorana. As an optional side quest you would get your fanboy love letter and no one else has to suffer through it to unlock the raid.
    It does have lore value, though. It establishes further ties to FFXIV's Ivalice whilst also referencing the original Ivalice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    What hyperbole?
    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    It is, after all, an RPG. Perhaps some 'instant unlock' potions can be sold on the Mog Station for people such as yourself, though?
    Criticising a pointless side quest apparently means we want instant unlock jump potions. Welcome to hyperbole. What we want is to not have a random fetch quest that distracts from the actual story just to make an obscure reference many players aren't even going to notice.
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