Cutscenes for Castrum Meridianum and Praetorium: A Suggestion

[Eidel]

cant stand being forced to do something i don't want to do. votes or no votes. i dont want to be forced into watching a CS i have seen many times before. i have simply decided to not play these 2 dungeons anymore, one less healer for needful groups. i do not care if the rewards were a thousand tomestones, still would not be worth my time to do something against my will.

[Seraphor]

I would be 100% fine with an 8/8 vote needed.
That, or just make it so if someone is there for the first time, you can't skip cutscenes. If nobody is new, let the regular skip option be there.

The problem here is that when you run the roulette, you're either getting a 10m run or a 45m run.

How many people are going to nope straight of there if they get the "one or more players have yet to complete this duty" message?

[Ardent_Willow]

Simple fix:
Make Castrum a 4-man, make the cutscenes in game text.
Make Praetorium a solo duty, except for Ultima Weapon, which is a trial.
Make Main Scenario roulette all stuff required for the MQ's.

[MistakeNot]

Simple fix:
Make Castrum a 4-man, make the cutscenes in game text.
Make Praetorium a solo duty, except for Ultima Weapon, which is a trial.
Make Main Scenario roulette all stuff required for the MQ's.

Not nearly as simple to do as you may think.
Besides, you do realize that approximately 80% of the current Leveling roulette and Trial roulette are stuff required for the MSQ?

[Ardent_Willow]

Hm, fair point.
Honestly, I'm mainly just bummed about the missing dialouge options in Prae.
They bookened the WoL's ARR character arc nicely, and with the Prae as it is, they're skipped entirely.
Just bugs me.

[ChameleonMS]

The problem here is that when you run the roulette, you're either getting a 10m run or a 45m run.
How many people are going to nope straight of there if they get the "one or more players have yet to complete this duty" message?

Anyone willing to take the chance on the MSQ roulette that is unwilling to potentially watch the cutscenes can eat the penalty.
You are queuing and you know the potential consequences. This is why I have not queued for Mentor roulette since the cutscene change because I know I will most likely end up in these dungeons and the rewards for Mentor are a pittance versus actually queuing for the MSQ Roulette.

[Seraphor]

Anyone willing to take the chance on the MSQ roulette that is unwilling to potentially watch the cutscenes can eat the penalty.
You are queuing and you know the potential consrquences.

Exactly, then there's no reason to implement this.
People running MSQ roulette know what they're getting themselves into.
Adding the option to skip it just draws in those who want to chance not getting stuck there for 45 mins.

[Aurturia]

Has there been any sort of data on the impact of this? When one of my sprouts got to here I offered to just run her through unsynced and chatted with the FC during the cutscenes and that's pretty much our FC policy now

[Blanchimont]

I'm sure they have the data, but haven't released it. From the looks of it though, the lack of a reversion means that they are satisfied with the results of their change.

[Squintina]

They'd have to scale the exp at the end to whether people skipped cutscenes or not. Because otherwise, there would be way too much pressure from impatient veterans to skip them.

And not scaled equally - it would have to be scaled so that watching the CS gives slightly better exp/time than not watching them at all, because if they're equally scaled, once again the vets will want the shorter run.

Having it skippable when running unsynced, though, is something that should totally be done.

Considering that MSQR Praet gives 50%+ exp for a 60+ right now, for a 45-50 minute youtube binge that's about twice as long as before for over twice the exp it used to be (I don't know why some people claim it was 10 mins before. I did a lot of runs and 10 mins is a vast exaggeration. It was closer to 20-25 mins, depending on the party), personally I'm fine with the way things are. It's good exp for a chill run of watching youtube. It's the Eureka of exp - netflix and chill.

The changes haven't stopped me from doing the roulette as I still have lots of jobs to level and that is just such good exp without having to worry about DF idiots ruining the run. With the lack of ilvl sync, this is easy to carry with just a handful of people actually trying - not like the mess that sometimes comes up in leveling and/or alliance roulette. And on Aether the queue time during prime time doesn't seem to have been affected too much (it's about 5-10 mins more than it used to be, not huge) and I just fill the time queuing doing BT/leves/goldsaucer/stuffs, refilling my water cup, and preparing some snacks. If you anticipate it, it's actually really relaxing.