New alliance loot rules discussion

[Seraphor]

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Why are you gearing a tank if you don\\'t enjoy playing it?
Plenty of people do enjoy tanking.

As for the "what if I lose it to some RDM?" That\\'s exactly what I just referred to.

You may very well lose it to a RDM, but that doesn\\'t mean that person needed the rank gear any less than you do.
It also doesn\\'t mean you\\'re always going to lose it to someone else. It depends entirely on if anyone else in the party is gearing a tank or not.
If tanking is so unpopular as you say, then you shouldn\\'t have much competition.

[Mahrze]

It depends entirely on if anyone else in the party is gearing a tank or not.

You're basically using whataboutism as a way to say this has merit.

Camp A (current): Best geared job = best chance to be clearing catch up content, so everyone gets "fair chances" cuz "effort"
Camp B (previous): play job you want to gear = lower chance of clear due to potential learning curve hazard, a good chance to "need" what you, y'know, need.

If you really want to preach a "fair" solution, they should have made each chest give tokens like raids have done since HW. While having this greed option,
"Ivalician Token A" 2 for: head, gloves, shoes.
"Ivalician Token B" 4 for: top, bottom.

This way: anyone can play as whatever AND have equal roll privileges. Who knew?

[TaiyoShikasu]

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The logic of Camp A makes no sense because alliance raids are casual content which given the disaster even Crystal Tower raids can be, some people treat them as more casual than dungeons.

Going in with your i370 means nothing when gear literally does not matter when there's no enrage timer to beat and you have two hours to clear the content. Not to mention mechanics are what get people killed in them, not something that makes gear matter and having a high item level doesn't mean anything if you fail mechanics.

[Souljacker]

Why are you gearing a tank if you don\\'t enjoy playing it?
Plenty of people do enjoy tanking.

You can both enjoy playing a tank *in general* and not enjoy playing a tank in a group of potentially abusive and\or unskilled random LFR people.

[AlohaSnackbar]

Why are you gearing a tank if you don\\'t enjoy playing it?
Plenty of people do enjoy tanking.

As for the "what if I lose it to some RDM?" That\\'s exactly what I just referred to.

You may very well lose it to a RDM, but that doesn\\'t mean that person needed the rank gear any less than you do.
It also doesn\\'t mean you\\'re always going to lose it to someone else. It depends entirely on if anyone else in the party is gearing a tank or not.
If tanking is so unpopular as you say, then you shouldn\\'t have much competition.

Apparently my 4k character limit is too long for the forum, thus stifling conversation. Here's a link to imgur instead. https://imgur.com/a/zhOTaub

[ElHeggunte]

Apparently my 4k character limit is too long for the forum

You can bypass the 1000 character limit by just editing your post. I always write everything I want to say, Cut everything but the first sentence, hit Edit, and then paste the rest of the message back in. If you do it fast enough the forum doesn't even show that there was an edit and the entire 1000+ character comment shows up as normal.

Considering it can be gotten around so easily and the fact that you need an active sub to even use the forums (or at the very least, have logged in at some point within the last two weeks) I don't even understand why such a restriction is in place.

[AlohaSnackbar]

You can bypass the 1000 character limit by just editing your post. I always write everything I want to say, Cut everything but the first sentence, hit Edit, and then paste the rest of the message back in. If you do it fast enough the forum doesn't even show that there was an edit and the entire 1000+ character comment shows up as normal.

Considering it can be gotten around so easily and the fact that you need an active sub to even use the forums (or at the very least, have logged in at some point within the last two weeks) I don't even understand why such a restriction is in place.

Really? I'll have to remember to use that tip, thank you.