New alliance loot rules discussion

[Burmecia]

...I raid savage casually, so I do not "need" gear from 24mans for stats.
BUT
I've always waited for these raids for two reasons.
1) Atmosphere. I've soft spot for large group effort. Well, when it is fun it's REALLY FUN, and when it's horrible it's just awful. But I feed the chaos all the same xD For the same reason I still partake to Odin/Ixion/Ultima Online kills whenever possible
2) GLAMOUR. I know, I know, vanity. But that's what kept me actually farming. I liked knowing that even on my frustrating 12th weekly run, if what I want drops I'm gonna have it. And other times if I didn't absolutely need my role spesific gear I never had problem passing for someone else.

I do not like this change, and I hope it gets overturned.
I'm not... seething with ire or anything here. It was kinda surprise to myself too how much pretty old gear from these raids means to me. I've few alts, so I was not gonna run out of pieces to farm. My current raiding main is missing Light sets body and Demon sets sabatons. But without Need as option I'm probably just gonna give up on this hobby of mine. I've lost 3 tank bodies from newest Ivalice raid this week; ended up picking belt because I was out of steam to try again. And what comest to incomplete sets sitting in my saddle bag, I can always turn what I have into seals, but I think I'll hold onto them a little while longer. To see if this is gonna be permanent change. Landslide of negative feedback still gives me hope <3

[TaiyoShikasu]

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Honestly the whole allowing people to run as their best job doesn't even hold up. Alliance raids are casual content and mechanics matter more than DPS.

Sure you'll feel real good with your super high DPS on your max ilevel job until you die to a mechanic and considering how forgiving the mechanics are, no one cares about the minimum ilevel samurai doing their 123 combo because it's not gonna wipe the raid.

[Vamp]

I'm not a fan of this for the players that could actually use the gear. Saw a fresh 70 asking if they could have any drops for their class (checked their gear, they needed it) in Rabanastre. A few in the party agreed, a few said they'll greed. A few pieces drop, the newer player loses every roll.


I don't need this gear at all (just run for the coin in lighthouse), but this is not a good system for players that really do need the gear to catch up. If I want any for glam, I'll run the extra times for it with a greed roll while player who need the gear can actually need it.

[burgil]

For me, I typically don't need anything in raid content unless it's for glamour, then greed for if i need fodder for GC seals. With this new system however, I'm kind of at a loss? I don't want to potentially greed over anyone else who might ACTUALLY need/want it just because I want to trade it in for seals. So now I feel like I shouldn't be touching anything? Then too, to be running something as one class forever and FINALLY see that glamour drop, only to have it be greed rolled out from under you? feels bad man...

Honestly I'm really hoping they just change it back to how it was. I think I understand the intent; but I still feel it would be better if people just ran as the classes they wanted the gear for.

[Ever_]

I am fine with Armor piece droop system. It is fine. Can do couple runs and roll on piece what needed but I really hard dislike Minion, Triple Triad and Orchestrion roll system. There is big problem in farming these rare droop minions like 2B or Black Pod. First of all it droops like maybe every 10th run plus also 24 people most likely roll on it. There is no way to farm it. It is pure luck droop and even bigger gamble on roll. My suggestion would be add these minions to NPC and as currency use coins what droops is these dungeons. It would be ok even if price would be 99. Could use same system as trials. For me true end game is collect minions, mounts and glamour but this alliance raid loot system just frutrate so much.

[Iscah]

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This is a two-year-old thread from a period where loot rolls were greed-only.