All Greed on Alliance loot

[SicariusSeven]

There will be a massively sharp decline in Alliance Raids now. Heck people will scramble to do the new one, just so they can get it done, get the coin etc. They won't run it if they can get better gear elsewhere. Not to mention this will now make people look at savage content for getting the better gear rather than using the coins to upgrade. I can't remember if the coin was the better route or not but I feel that savage gear was always better.

[Theodric]

People overestimate how many players are willing to queue up each week even for the sake of upgrade items. Not everybody bothers to cap tomes, either - especially if they're not doing any high end content.

If the overall package gives less for the time invested, then less people will bother - at least the old system had the opportunity to get the upgrade items and try for glamour. Now it's going to be even harder to get glamour stuff.

[Tavira]

I bet SE is already forseeing a sharp decline in Alliance Raids now with this stupid decision, you dont shoot yourself in the foot when you want players to run your content. Just look at Destiny 2 and its steadily declining playerbase, dont be like them.

Just keep the loot rules the same, hell maybe up the loot drops from each boss cause getting only one or two drops per boss, when you need to run the same raids over and over again to get a complete set is annoying as all hell

[Machka]

If the overall package gives less for the time invested, then less people will bother - at least the old system had the opportunity to get the upgrade items and try for glamour. Now it's going to be even harder to get glamour stuff.

Yeah, agreed. I used to queue up for 24 mans 5-10 times a week (sometimes more) to try getting a particular drop, always running on the job I wanted the gear for. Many times that still wasn't enough, and I would end up having to just grab whatever I could the night before weekly resets.

24 man drops becoming greed only makes the chances so bad that I won't be trying to farm them anymore. It took me around a month of that to get the piece I wanted from Rabanastre - there is no way I'm going to put that much time into something with more than double the chance of failure now. Ain't nobody got time for that.

[Bahati]

If it ain't broke, don't fix it SE.

[Enla]

People overestimate how many players are willing to queue up each week even for the sake of upgrade items. Not everybody bothers to cap tomes, either - especially if they're not doing any high end content.

If the overall package gives less for the time invested, then less people will bother - at least the old system had the opportunity to get the upgrade items and try for glamour. Now it's going to be even harder to get glamour stuff.

Hell, I have an alt that I refuse to try and keep geared as I barely have time to keep my main even mildly up to snuff. I always get her geared via alliance raids and the occasionally crafted item because it's less time investment than trying to break my face gathering tomes for /another/ character when I'm already on a semi-hiatus from the game. This choice basically ensured I'm not even going to bother trying to keep her geared anymore.

[Fyce]

i don't what they were trying to do but I'm pretty all this will really do is make the new 24 dead and impossible to get a full 24 people for on any day other then Tuesday

Yeah, people won't even go in for their weekly upgrade token.
They'll even probably unsubscribe.

The game is dead folks.

[Vriel]

I said it once and I will just say it again: DO NOT put greed only into dungeons where the gear is infinitely accesible throughout the entire week. As long as the gear is limited to 1 per week this is fine, people will be mindfull of what they roll on. When it is uncapped and you still want a sinlge gear piece from any of these dungeons you are basically forced to beg your party to not roll on certain gear and are at the mercy of those up to 7 absolutely random people.

And yeh... people will roll just to get GC seals, because making submarines is not really kind on them.

[Alleo]

If it ain't broke, don't fix it SE.

They seem to love doing the opposite. If its at least fine for most players they change it (all greed) and if something is bad and limited for most people (like housing) they put years of band-aids on it and hope that it solves itself over time..at least that is the feeling I get after all this time playing this..

[RokkuEkkusu]

I'll be honest, I was hoping for a mistranslation from the live letters and stuff. But it seems SE is really intent on going with the "All Greed" loot rule for ALL 24-man alliance raids. I'll be among the many to say it's a bad idea.