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    RLofOBFL's Avatar
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    Lala Yuki
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Myrhn View Post
    I think if is the healer ripping aggro because he/she is healing the dmg + doing dmg is the tank fault for not staying in tank stance. We dont use Lucid for enmity reduction mainly, we use it to get our mp back primary, the enmity down is just a bonus.
    In a fight like O8s you use Lucid near the start. And as a healer you basically always use lucid close to the beginning of a fight regardless(esp if no ranged) or you're not optimizing it at all and either have low APM for it to not matter or end up with no mp and forced to do nothing. And it only takes one use to make your aggro low enough to matter in 95% of fights. O8s & O4s are the exceptions where you could potentially still rip aggro due to crazy heal requirements, which then it's up to tanks to do something.
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    Reinhardt Azureheim
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by RLofOBFL View Post
    In a fight like O8s you use Lucid near the start. And as a healer you basically always use lucid close to the beginning of a fight regardless(esp if no ranged) or you're not optimizing it at all and either have low APM for it to not matter or end up with no mp and forced to do nothing. And it only takes one use to make your aggro low enough to matter in 95% of fights. O8s & O4s are the exceptions where you could potentially still rip aggro due to crazy heal requirements, which then it's up to tanks to do something.
    In the case of O8S, the only window healers can actually rip aggro is from first Heartless Angel until healing resolving post Light of Judgement #1. Past that enough shirks / tankswaps have happened and Lucid is about to come around (about 30-40s more), aggro should be more than stable by then.

    In the case of O4S Exdeath, it is fairly bearable - OT using Provoke-Shirk before the tentacles start showing up and using Ultimatum to grab him before he jumps away so the MT can shirk the OT (tankswap) will do the trick just fine. White hole, while nasty, is not the biggest healcheck required.

    In the case of O4S Neo-Exdeath, the plenty enmity resets from the grand cross attacks make occasional heal requirements a nasty lot to deal with, at worst the first Almagest could let a WHM overtake in enmity lead. In that fight it is fairly normal for tanks to do a provoke into some enmity boost (be it through NIN shadewalker or one solid enmity combo) to grab the boss before tank mechanics (tankbusters mainly) come around.
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