"Eureka", but why?

[Linx0r]

I do like eureka but it takes away the challenge of getting a good weapon and now gear. People have 10+ relics? How is that special? Honestly eureka is something to do. There is no real value in it at all if you think about it. Make getting relics not grinder but harder.

[Tint]

Make getting relics not grinder but harder.

i would say the relic is not grindy enough. i got mine after 4 days, and the most time spent was on leveling. didn't touched eureka after that for a second relic...

they took away the grind from the relic, it took me 2 - 4 weeks to complete one of the old relic steps, finishing it now in 2 - 4 days is a letdown.

if you want a challenge go kill ex primals, savage raid or ultimate. they all give you weapons. what point has the relic when it is just another challenge? we have enough weapon rewards for challenging content! give me back the grind instead!

[Remedi]

To my knowledge a piece of gear takes 2 hours to get at lv 20 and a weapon around 3 hours so, yes it's not a long grind, the grind was frontloaded on the levelling, as said in other threads they addressed the complaint of sebsequent relics requiring the same amount of grind to be acquired, whatever that was a good or bad move is up to ppl, I will say it's bad for eureka's health overall

[Reynhart]

What was wrong about the old system?

Considering at least 75% of every previous relics required to farm Tomestones, I'd say they just realized that such weapons already exists: the Tome Weapons.

And frankly, with all the roulettes, I doubt you have that many people that still heavily level with FATEs.

On top of that, they made Wondrous Tails the new "keep old content fresh" solution, so there's no need for the Relic to go that way anymore.

Eureka is the "selfish" Version.

Really funny considering Eureka is the content where people are the most helpful with each other.

[Sheriyana]

I'll throw in my two cents and say I really don't like Eureka. Relic for me before was something I could do on my own while none of my friends were online. I like the alone time too, I have social anxiety so it's pretty nice to be able to focus on something by myself. Personally I hate grinding with a group, I lose focus pretty fast. I do roulettes with my friends and I use maps as my primary source of income and you can't really do those alone, so it's not like I want the game to be a solo only experience either.

I've been in Eureka a couple times but I just can't do it, it's not at all what I want from my relic grind. I know the previous relics haven't been perfect either, like the anima was mostly tome farming and the crafted parts of previous relics have been just atrocious for someone who isn't really into crafting, but I'd rather have all of that back than this. Also the ability to just pump out relics after you hit level 20 really rubs me the wrong way, you can already just get a relic by sitting around in the fate trains. I mean on one hand it's nice but did it really have to be the relic, it really lessens their value. Eureka as a whole is more like something I could expect out of a new Deep Dungeon, the separate leveling system, subpar weapons handed out with relatively little grinding, RNG loot boxes etc. Why did we need this? We already have Deep Dungeon for similar weapons and at least in there the separate leveling system makes sense since you can actually level in there too. And that's all before we get into the reusing of old weapons and armor...

Oh well... Anyways that's just my opinion, I don't expect many to agree with me but I just wanted to say it either way.

[Popotato]

Personally, I feel like the relics are easier to get this time around because the devs realise that tying relics to Eureka is not a 'sustainable' way of making relics. What I mean by that is both Zodiac and Anima are possible to do today, and player retention largely doesn't matter towards their creation. Eureka is likely to be dead content come next expansion, so its best if as many people as possible get their relic now.

That also ties into another reason why relic making was so fast this time around, and that's because so many people were doing Eureka. As fewer people do Eureka, the process of making a relic weapon becomes slower and slower. It's true for older relic weapons too, such as light grinding and fate farming phases, that's why they had to nerf those processes to make it faster eventually. But neither of those are to the same scale as Eureka relics, because Eureka is data center collaboration rather than world collaboration. That brings up the problem of how they're going to nerf the current step, because unless they drastically increase protean crystal gain and make NMs, especially Pazuzu, doable with a single party, this step is going to be impossible in a year's time.

[Linx0r]

if you want a challenge go kill ex primals, savage raid or ultimate. they all give you weapons. what point has the relic when it is just another challenge? we have enough weapon rewards for challenging content! give me back the grind instead!

I don’t mind a good grind either. That’s what made it unique. Now, you can get for all jobs in what, a month? I got my pld weapon after very casually playing eureka and I was not even happy to get it lol I’m finding there’s no satisfaction

I do primals and some savage but relic should be casual - primals and savage aren’t (well for me anyway)

[Remedi]

From an interwiew it seems they have decided to add an eureka section to the weekly challenge log that rewards elemental experience

[Zephanoa]

I am happy to have a new way to get a relic. The community asked for a place to have danger and risks and they gave it to us in this form. I am glad they changed it up.

[Aomine1992]

I prefer this way, wayyyyy over he old relic quest....Atma/fate crystals was enough cancer, then you had books, HW had 1000 Alexander spammage for unique items or spend your tomes, light farm times two, umbrite and sands terrible just none of it was fun or engaging to me..

Eureka has many many issues but it still has it fun aspects to it, playing with friends makes it really great, it's a grind but not a weeks and months grind so I can do it for multiple classes and also do other stuff. I'm sorry but they have did a great job with this relic even tho Eureka still has some things that needs fixing.