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  1. #231
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lynart View Post
    We can speculate further.
    No need to speculate, as it is the major factor of my post. Greed and Protection are 2 completely different animals.

    Other console manufacturers have learned the hard way as well. Perhaps you forgot about the Chinese Company that hacked XBL accounts tied to credit cards to purchase over $2M of content off XBL MP since 2015 and sold it on their website? MS v. Gameest International

    Quote Originally Posted by Lynart View Post
    Also, nothing in your post signifies that I was wrong about Sony not wanting to play ball...
    Nothing in this thread signifies Sony not wanting to play ball regarding XIV.

    If this is all you thought of reading my post your are mistaken. Rocket League & Fortnite are extremely poor cross-play examples as they both rely on multiple Companies' specific network data. XIV & XI don't.

    What we do have is specific statements from the XIV Producer/Director stating SE & MS are unable to come to terms. With Yoshi stating the primary concern being he doesn't want players having to pay for 2 game services just to access XIV. (XIV sub + Gold) The talks have been going on for literally years.
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  2. #232
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeonx View Post
    I wouldn\\'t want it.

    Because of limitations they started to tear graphics out of other places in the world colors and other stuff, the sky used to look good then you look up now you see square grids all over sunny shine effects were gone, they removed really cool fireworks that spelled stuff in the sky and things just got really ugly as time went on.

    You want that to happen to FFXIV? once cross play happens then they say oh limitations cat do this or that unless do this or that.

    Then FFXIV will become FFXI until down the road they decide ok well maybe we should drop it but by that time it will be too late.
    You do know FFXI is a PS2 game ported to the PC, so from the start you already bound to one systeem. Thr game is only alive now because of working PS2 devkits. Ofcourse the game looks horrible overtime. Older games are never made with higher resolutions in mind and wil look washed out then you remember. Your claim about removing effects sounds a like a sweet little lie.

    FFXIV is a different story. The main platform is the PC and everything is ported to another platforms so that is easier to upgrade and more scaleble with settings. PC players has more options in the settings for example then PS4 users who has a fixed layout.
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  3. #233
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    Your claim about removing effects sounds a like a sweet little lie.
    My cousin said you must not have played during the beginning of FFXI and you never seen the congratulations fireworks or other stuff they had either.
    He said they even made post on a update saying they would have to take out some graphics in order to have things for other stuff I remember because some of the weapons in Auction house changed in color and look from fancy to garbage.

    But hey think what you want.

    He also said you probably never did the twinkling treants event. He's played since the very start.

    He never took a break also played on pc and ps2 and he noticed changes.

    He stopped playing ps2 because the black screens started happening this was during the time they were asking to drop ps2 support and re-vamp it on pc but never happened that was years ago even before they added xbox 360 he's got old pictures from the past on how graphics changed from good to bad so don't sit here claim something so it makes it look good for them to push this on other consoles.

    once a limit has been reached and because other systems have a huge player base if they added them they will not cut them off.

    This is talking about switch and xbox and they would deem it unfair not to give them the same fan service.

    Also he said in selbina ship that crossed to mhura the rain used to poor down and you could see the rain. and tons of clouds.

    He said he'd dig up photo of the ship ride if you need more proof cause he'd love to prove you wrong he said.



    This is what you see he said and you never seen it back then, this picture is a example of the sky.


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    If you are one of those people who think FFXI still getting content yeah right, its re-hash of old stuff done back then now if they had removed ps2 from start playing they would of had time to fix on ffxi so the devs could of made new content but because it took too long and so many expansions came out there was no way in hell for them to rebuild it without it taking too long.
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  4. #234
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeonx View Post

    If you are one of those people who think FFXI still getting content yeah right, its re-hash of old stuff done back then now if they had removed ps2 from start playing they would of had time to fix on ffxi so the devs could of made new content but because it took too long and so many expansions came out there was no way in hell for them to rebuild it without it taking too long.
    I will skip *my cousin*. Because only 1 picture of something blue... yeah that is not saying much. Never saw it myself like that and i cannot say much. Because Europe got the game a little later. The only thing i got were lovely random xbox360 crashes <3.

    I never said *new content*.They have PS2 kits to patch it still. Which is normal... there are still bugs.

    Nope, you are making things up again. Yea let's remove the main console from the game while many JP play on it and rebuild it. Was life that easy, FFXIV would have a texture ultra high pack already. At the time SE wasnt doing well at all. It worked and they never wanted to change it. Why invest in something when at the time wasnt needed. The game is getting old and issues you notice know were maybe unnotice at the time.

    (I shall repeat myself)
    The difference between FFXI and FFXIV. PC is the main platform now and it's much easier to exclude platforms.
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    Sony is being greedy.. lol i think you mistyped what was mean't to be Micro$oft.
    I will agree with what the poster said about Sony's Infrastructure however, PSN has needed upgrading for sometime now and they are not doing much about it. It actually pisses me off in that regard, lol

    Topic at hand, shall i repeat myself again with actual facts in which MS still want their own servers and this be ONE of the reasons why xbox players do not yet have ffxiv.
    It has absolutely nothing to do with Sony, nor SE actually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    I have eyeglasses, and thus far no HMD adapts for this.
    My eyes are -10/-10 and I have astigmatism.

    Wear contacts.

    You may want to try VR first and come up with your own opinions btw. While you are correct that VR implementation has some problems, I strongly disagree with the vast majority of reasons you're talking about as both a developer, and user.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maero View Post
    Sony is being greedy.. lol i think you mistyped what was mean't to be Micro$oft.
    I will agree with what the poster said about Sony's Infrastructure however, PSN has needed upgrading for sometime now and they are not doing much about it. It actually pisses me off in that regard, lol
    I honestly dislike both Companies for different reasons, as I was effected by data breaches from both. If either Company wants to be greedy towards security, they will continue to learn the hard way and pay for it as well as lose customers.

    What I find hilarious about the poor "journalism" coverage of Rocket League Dev is simple. If the Devs of RL REALLY CARED, they would have made a verification hand off server with unique free accounts and a stat tracking system and it never would have been an issue for Cross-Plat. (besides the standard, XBL has a dedicated XB only server as well) Was the question ever asked? Nope...

    Correct, own servers & the fact they continue to not budge on Gold requirements. I even threw MS a bone stating they are still having talks about it to this day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeonx View Post
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    Veteran FF11 player here (and still plays). I also call bs on your "cousin" claim. Never did I see a degrade or cut of effects. Is it possible he/she turned down effects under config settings?

    Now the graphics looks nothing alike you showed not on PS2 or XB360 (before it was shut down in 2015) and absolutely not on PC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeonx View Post
    Also he said in selbina ship that crossed to mhura the rain used to poor down and you could see the rain. and tons of clouds.
    Maybe try a day with worse weather?

    Seriously though, I did a lot of fishing on that ferry and I don't remember visuals actively getting removed from it.

    I do remember events gradually getting weaker but that was purely down to the development team behind them getting progressively more watered down as time went on.

    Everquest demonstrates exactly the same trend where the overall production values have faltered and failed as the investment in the game has dried up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rinuko View Post
    snip.
    He said just because they added the scaling option HD a while back doesn't mean anything, doesn't matter if you are a veteran when did you start playing matters.
    He began at the very start of the game he has pictures back from 2002 the sun was even shiny in west ronfaure, as he said that when it rained on the selbina ship it was heavy rain effects not watered down rain.

    he stopped playing to play ffxiv not to long ago and has played free weekends nothing much has change he said said emote jump and trying to copy things from ffxiv with the whole HP teleporting also trust.

    he also said to tell you that he has a few friends who started with him that even talk about how some of the stuff was removed they remember going by memory they still play ffxiv with him to I mean believe what you want its his memory.

    but this is my last post he said he had taken pictures back then has them graphics look old but you could tell the way they looked now if they added HD scaling back then it would of looked even better than it did today.

    People claim they started at the very beginning but tons of you probably started at 2004 or 2006 cause like you say its bs.

    <--- this was removed along with other stuff.

    anyways done with this topic think what you want part of me wants to know if you even own hard copies of the original games released would ask for pics but im sure you be like oh I got rid of them lol well peace.
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