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  1. #21
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    NewAgeDoom's Avatar
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    Doom Moonwalker
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    Diabolos
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    Black Mage Lv 61
    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    Porque no los dos
    Si, senor(ita)
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    Lumen Stargazer
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    Porque este thread es para 5.0 solamente
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  3. #23
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    Jandor's Avatar
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    Tal Young
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    Cerberus
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Dancer.

    The game needs another Dex based melee class to balance it out (should have been sam, but that's another story)
    Game could do with it's pointless duplicate stats and redundant gear sets removing.

    Dancer healer with melee damage instead of ranged would be neat though.
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  4. 05-03-2018 12:20 AM

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    I would be sorely disappointed by Chemist, it sounds very unattractive both gear and weapon wise. Dancer should be the "bard" of healers with different dance buffs. I don't think it needs to be melee? Then again I'm thinking dancer is a dancer and closer to AST and not a fancily dressed NIN cutting into mobs from close range.
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  6. #25
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    Luminarium Arcturus
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    Tonberry
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    Warrior Lv 80
    i think i wont be able to concentrate that much on the fight just because a dancer's constantly seducing my character
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  7. #26
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    Usho's Avatar
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    Masahiro Kido
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    Excalibur
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Why is Dancer even in this question? Dancer had never been a healer. It's a dps with some healing ability like RDM. We had this debate about RDM being a healer, and everyone was complaining and guess what? RDM, as predicted, released as a DPS. FFXI's Dancer was imo the best solo job in the game. Great dps, TP based healing and buffs. Also, Dancer's use Daggers or Knives as weapons.

    Dancers with staves, books or globes or wands? Really? Come on people. Chemist uses items to heal allies. THEY can be considered for a healing position but Dancer? Yeah, not gonna happen and if it does, I would have lost all faith in SE.
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  8. #27
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    Jkap Goat
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    Gilgamesh
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    Weaver Lv 80
    From the ffxi wiki:

    Dancers are capable healers ND While it may not be wise for them to be the main healer of a group until level 74, two functioning together can, in most cases, eliminate the need for an MP-based healer. Also, Dancer is one of the only jobs offering the Dual Wield trait, which it gains at level 20. The other jobs are Ninja at 10, Thief at 83 and Blue Mage, with the proper spells set, at 80.

    Sooooo....
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    All classes are feeling way too similar, the game has already being too streamlined for too long in terms of builds and player style and customization. Is the price to pay for balance and honestly, i don't know if its worth it. We should get more freedom to play roles in a more diverse way, the trinity has served it's function, is time to move on.

  9. #28
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    Usho's Avatar
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    Masahiro Kido
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    Excalibur
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Jkap_Goat View Post
    From the ffxi wiki:
    Dancers are capable healers ND While it may not be wise for them to be the main healer of a group until level 74, two functioning together can, in most cases, eliminate the need for an MP-based healer. Also, Dancer is one of the only jobs offering the Dual Wield trait, which it gains at level 20. The other jobs are Ninja at 10, Thief at 83 and Blue Mage, with the proper spells set, at 80. Sooooo....

    You forget this: Dancers used TP for healing. And they were subjected to CDs. MP based healers with their healing spells are not. TP based healing is not a recommended main healing method unless you are a dps. Healers MP (Mana) in game has very high. What use would Dancer have for MP? The Answer: Nothing. They relied on TP for their healing among other things. Your argument is moot.

    Thank you for playing. Try again. GG
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  10. #29
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    Jkap Goat
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dancer can use a bit of TP and MP for healing, if they want to implement it they will find a way. I can see ffxiv dancer having a high TP pool and a low MP pool. Some DPS classes have Goad so they can give it to DNC just like magical DPS can give Mana shift to healers
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    All classes are feeling way too similar, the game has already being too streamlined for too long in terms of builds and player style and customization. Is the price to pay for balance and honestly, i don't know if its worth it. We should get more freedom to play roles in a more diverse way, the trinity has served it's function, is time to move on.

  11. #30
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    Rayo Seibold
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    Siren
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    Samurai Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Usho View Post
    You forget this: Dancers used TP for healing. And they were subjected to CDs. MP based healers with their healing spells are not. TP based healing is not a recommended main healing method unless you are a dps. Healers MP (Mana) in game has very high. What use would Dancer have for MP? The Answer: Nothing. They relied on TP for their healing among other things. Your argument is moot.

    Thank you for playing. Try again. GG
    Jeez.. Plenty of people came up with perfectly viable means of making a melee healer, you just gotta be creative. Powerful regen dances, MP to TP conversion, skills that damage or heal. skills that damage and heal, Heal the party member with the highest enmity... etc etc, Its not hard to come up with different but viable concepts.

    If its not the Dancer you want, than I'm sorry but trying to act like developers or fans have to play by some strict guideline or limit prevents enjoyment and fun for everyone, including those who try to enforce such limitations
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