[dev1245] Food recipe simplificatioin

[HiirNoivl]

example 1 you want to boil crayfish without using water, i think you don't understand how boiling works :P lol

seriously recipes are being revamped, if other revamped recipes from other crafting classes are anything to go by then i would think they will be simplified

This is not about reality Grandm

This is about practicality. Level 1 synths should not have recipes that require gil. Notice also that Boiled Bream recipe does not require water. I just hope that they simplify to the point that it will make it easier to make food so that I don't have to make sand just to rank up.

I actually dont mind the amount of ingredients and the challenge to acquire them it adds a great feeling of accomplishment to turn out a few stacks of Stuffed Cabbage +3. I liek that it makes me travel as well and hunt down monsters for ingredients. Kick-ass, salt-of-the-earth style chef. However, the one thing I really really wish they would do is give us more uses for basic ingredients. For example, we should be able to make a wide variety of different flavors of cake (chocolate, spice, carrot, rolandberry etc each with dif stats ) using the same base cake recipe + flavor ingredient. Or a basic "stew" that we can add different proteins or vegetables to, depending on our rank as a chef. This is how cooking works in the real world and its a great system! This way i can actually start using up these endless stacks of ingredients that are only good for 1 or 2 things (and often not-so-great things><). Plus, I like what Tymora is saying, about the recipes being pretty close to RL food, i think its fun! Its why i became a Culinarian in the first place lol.

I'm sure that's what Tanaka had in mind at first. However, it just made Culinarian very difficult to level. Few people want to do this. =/ I was one of those people who ran around collecting things for making food. Unfortunately, no one wanted it. It was pretty crushing that I did all that work made an unwanted product and then didn't even get much SP out of the deal.

Like I said, maybe on highpowered or special food we can have 8 different ingredients around the world, but there should be a simplification of the majority of recipes so that Culinarian is more accessible.

[Akubikumo]

I'm sure that's what Tanaka had in mind at first. However, it just made Culinarian very difficult to level. Few people want to do this. =/ I was one of those people who ran around collecting things for making food. Unfortunately, no one wanted it. It was pretty crushing that I did all that work made an unwanted product and then didn't even get much SP out of the deal.

But see i think the problem is not in the variety of required mats (which i think is actually a cool thing) but in the usefulness of the food. I def agree with you though that the recipes are just useless right now and certainly not worth all the effort they take. I havent even touched a single fish or lentil since the last patch cause there's just no point. But again the problem, as i see it, is the lack of necessity for food. I'd be kinda bummed if anybody could just plop a couple easy-to-get, local items and *poof* a steak.

Like I said, maybe on highpowered or special food we can have 8 different ingredients around the world, but there should be a simplification of the majority of recipes so that Culinarian is more accessible.

Like i was saying about the idea of "Base" recipes for things like cakes, stews or even omelets. Just like in RL, you learn the basic technique and then as you grow, you begin introducing more difficult/expensive/exotic ingredients. Like Vanilla Cake - rnk10, Rolandberry Cake - rnk 20, Chocolate Cake - rnk 30, Spice Cake - rnk 40, etc. and for every cake you use the same basic, simple ingredients (flour, milk, eggs, sugar) then add the higher flavorings as you rank up. this formula could apply to all sorts of dishes, allow for multi-use mats and give cul's some actual food to grind on.

I think the challenge culinarians face is unique among the classes and i like the weirdo, where-the-hell-do-i-find-that? list of ingredients. But you're right, I just wish you got something for your effort besides Tom Sawyer-style Gratifaction™.