The only way this is a good idea is if they don't put a weekly loot lockout on the raid, but that's unlikely and not mentioned so I can see losing a lot of gear for my main class this way...


The only way this is a good idea is if they don't put a weekly loot lockout on the raid, but that's unlikely and not mentioned so I can see losing a lot of gear for my main class this way...
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If they implement this, I think a lot of people are going to be angry. The whole concept doesn’t make sense and why change something that has been working? If this is to fix those LOTA drops, well they could increase the items that drop rather than one shitty belt a chest. Groans




I think that it's interesting they chose to do this bad decision after making other similarly bad decisions with alliance raids in the past.
Specifically, Triple Triad cards. Raids like World of Darkness and Syrcus Tower have the cards drop directly into players' inventories after successfully beating the raid. Rabanastre, however, drops the cards into a loot pool. As a result, I'm still trying for Rofocale's card.
Last edited by TheGrimace; 04-30-2018 at 06:19 AM. Reason: Stupid phone autocorrect.
if/when they implement this i expect the new 24 mad will dead and impossible to get full raid for on any day other then Tuesday(and maybe not even then) since me and probably most other players will just run it one then for the weekly reward drop then not go back
becoming my enemy would be unwise




Actually, their reasoning was apparently due to how JP players treat content. The expectation there is to queue on your main as you'll be the most efficient, thus things go faster. Therefore, it was difficult for them to roll on things for their secondary jobs. What irks me about the change is how the devs entirely ignored NA/EU approach content very differently. Such is why they should just implement a token system not unlike EX Primals. Forcing a Greed only rule may help JP but it royally pisses off NA/EU. And I hate to break it to you SE, but NA alone has a larger playerbase.It would serve them right if tanks and healers just decided they didn't want the responsibility either and let the queue times skyrocket. Or ya know I just stop resurrecting any dps in my party that is screwing up mechanics and making my life hard while also greeding on the gear I need. I don't see this causing anything but irritation and strife. Their reasoning of 'but they had to run it multiple times to gear secondary jobs' doesn't make sense because this sort of system will likely only make that worse. Not only will people on their main role be struggling to gear but the people trying to gear alt jobs will also be rolling the dice against far more people each time the gear they want drops. I don't know. I've always loved the 24 man raids and was looking forward to the next installment but this makes me not want to bother at all.
Last edited by Bourne_Endeavor; 04-30-2018 at 11:03 PM.
I have to agree with this, this change doesn't seem to address an issue that lot of people had and I'd expect to lead to lot of frustration in a game mode that already seems to bring out the worst in a lot of the player base. I think this is the first time I'm hoping something doesn't have nice looking gear for mains....Actually, their reasoning was apparently due to how JP players treat content. The expectation their is to queue on your main as you'll be the most efficient, thus things go faster. Therefore, it was difficult for them to roll on things for their secondary jobs. What irks me about the change is how the devs entirely ignored NA/EU approach content very differently. Such is why they should just implement a token system not unlike EX Primals. Forcing a Greed only rule may help JP but it royally pisses off NA/EU. And I hate to break it to you SE, but NA alone has a larger playerbase.
Last edited by jameseoakes; 05-01-2018 at 10:12 PM.
I did a google translate on a thread that is on the JP about this. they seem to be against greedy only mostly. There's also mention of tokens. Someone saying it will take 64 runs to get an item. That this change is only being done to get you to play more. Someone said that its recommended to do Alliance raids to when you come back for a break, but after this change, they won't be able to recommend that anymore. Some just saying they are surprised that SE just considers Alliance raids for secondary jobs. There was also this odd translation that was put in quotes I kept seeing. I didn't get it at first but I think they are saying if you want the item, you go as the job that can use it.Actually, their reasoning was apparently due to how JP players treat content. The expectation their is to queue on your main as you'll be the most efficient, thus things go faster. Therefore, it was difficult for them to roll on things for their secondary jobs. What irks me about the change is how the devs entirely ignored NA/EU approach content very differently. Such is why they should just implement a token system not unlike EX Primals. Forcing a Greed only rule may help JP but it royally pisses off NA/EU. And I hate to break it to you SE, but NA alone has a larger playerbase.
Last edited by Ariane; 04-30-2018 at 11:07 PM.


i don't like this change. let's hope there is enough negative feedback until the patch day

Unfortunately I doubt it going by the fact that the said they'd be taking in feedback only to decide if they should continue this trend in future Alliance Raids. That sounds suspiciously like they plan to push it through no matter how people feel and /then/ see about not doing it in the future. Best we can likely do is make it very obvious that it isn't an acceptable change and doesn't solve the problem they claim it does.
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