Only 2/5 Endgame content currently viable, why?

[Teuciont]

Who said we HAD to use the word endgame though? It's just a word to represent content at max level. We could call it H981hmc for all I care. I realize I started the thread with the word "endgame" but that's because it's just a popular buzzword for content at the max level of a MMO. In XI hitting 75 was just the start. There was still so much to explore, so much to do, story missions, all kinds of things. All I'm saying, is that because we have nothing to explore until 2.0, and we don't have that huge variety of endgame until 2.0, that they just "give something for people at max level to do, challenges to overcome, some way of seperating those who put forth a great deal of skill and effort into the game and those that just like to play casually." I guess that's my definition of "endgame," but I'm not engrossed with the word, it was just a way of getting my point across. Now this might lead to an argument of "casual gamers should be able to get the same gear as hardcore gamers," but that's not what the thread is about, so please don't send it that way. All I'm asking is to make the existing content viable so that new Linkshells, and new people CAN have new journey's and experiences AND feel like they're working toward something.

[RedAffinity]

You have to have something to motivate you. A desire and purpose in order to make an effort and join an event or activity. I have absolutely NO idea why Yoshi believes strong crafted armor is a direction that's alright. It simply takes the need to raid for gear, unless raid/nm gear is so unique in nature that it can not be replaced by crafted armor.

If you look at my post history, i'm usually always very supportive of the directions and choices this game has taken. Crafting gear, i just seriously can NOT understand why, despite his reasoning for crafting roles being more prominent.

If i'm missing something here, someone please explain because i'm willing to change my views here.

[grandm]

this patch 1.20 had to sort out player search and the market system, everybody and i mean everybody has been saying with them in the state they were in the game was not complete. you add to that the new battle system, them three things are massive and must have taken along time to do properly. sure what is being added to "endgame" this patch might not be much for ppl hanging around with multiple 50s, but priorities are in place fix what is broken before they charge.

but to say there is no "endgame" is wrong a new player that picks up the game has a world of things to do, the fact is it dot matter how much "endgame" they release from now till 2.0. you are going to burn through it like its going out of fashion, and feel like there is nothing to do. but new player is not. and to say something is not viable because the loot is rubbish, is the sort of thing a hardcore player with nothing left to do would say. a new player that has not tried it before, will want to experience the content. i guess what i am saying is you might be happier taking a break till 2.0, when you come back i imagine there will be loads of stuff you havn't done (this is not me saying if you don't like it GTFO, this is me giving what i think is real advice)

[Teuciont]

I AM a new player, and so is my LS. I see no point in doing any of the "content" now, because it gives me nothing to shoot for. Sure there's the "experience," but when you start wiping and losing to a boss once, twice, three times, you're going to get people who say "Well this is great and all, but why are we doing this again?" CoP in XI had a goal to shoot for and an amazing journey/experience along the way. I'm not even asking for that much, I'm not asking for new weapons, new armor, new models for anything. I've been seriously playing since 1.18, and I was so excited to learn all of the stuff that I was going to be able to take part in at 50. Then I get to 50, and it's nothing but Ifrit and Strongholds. I started doing faction NMs, because I was excited at the fact that Ifrit was super tough and that I'd need to gear up, that I would be able to run in in a santa outfit and win. I WANT Ifrit to be a super tough battle, I WANT it to be out reach, I WANT a goal to go for. I DON'T want to be able to beat him as soon as I hit 50. Instead of climbing a sharp, long slope in a burning desert to get to an oasis with lemonade at the top and a feel of accomplishment, it's simply hitting 50 and walking over a bump(learning the fight) to get to the lemonade and oasis. Sure, there end is the same, but there was no journey there. There was no reason for me to be excited and feel like I deserve to be at this oasis.

[grandm]

by definition there can only be one best weapon and one best set of armour, the defining word is "best". so lets say for 2 seconds they scrap crafted and materia gear. and the "best" gear comes from "endgame" lets say there is 20 dungeons in "endgame". you will still only be going to 2 of them at maximum, because that is where the "best" gear is. making all others a waste of time

[PrettyPrincess]

This is a thread about endgame content.

If you read, you would have seen how he asked what I do to entertain myself.

[MeowyWowie]

by definition there can only be one best weapon and one best set of armour, the defining word is "best". so lets say for 2 seconds they scrap crafted and materia gear. and the "best" gear comes from "endgame" lets say there is 20 dungeons in "endgame". you will still only be going to 2 of them at maximum, because that is where the "best" gear is. making all others a waste of time

This is true as far as FFXIV goes, but it doesn't have to be that way. We can have multiple BiS pieces if they're situational.

Examples for some weapons:

Sword A: Highest base damage of all swords. BiS for raw damage
Sword B: Added effect stun. BiS for soloing tough mobs.
Sword C: Increased ENM on actions. BiS for tanking.

The same can be done with armor.

However, this will also lead to people complaining about inventory room. But then again, there's people complaining about inventory room even now. Personally I really can't understand how people can be short on inventory space now. I have 100+ materia stored on retainers, plus materials, plus gear, plus some useless crap which I don't even know why I keep.. And I still have well over 100 free inventory space.

No matter which way you slice it, there will always be someone complaining. But, if I had to choose, I would take more content (more gear options) over more inventory space any day.

[Lucifer]

If you read, you would have seen how he asked what I do to entertain myself.

I think YOU need to reread the original post.

[PrettyPrincess]

Not to be confrontational, but what exactly do you find to entertain yourself with?

...he asked what I do to entertain myself ~.~

[Kiote]

by definition there can only be one best weapon and one best set of armour, the defining word is "best". so lets say for 2 seconds they scrap crafted and materia gear. and the "best" gear comes from "endgame" lets say there is 20 dungeons in "endgame". you will still only be going to 2 of them at maximum, because that is where the "best" gear is. making all others a waste of time

You are completely discounting the fact that not every piece of a set needs to come from the same place. You are also ignoring the fact that there can be multiple sets that are the "best" for something. Solo set, Raid Set, Party Set, etc. etc.

There is no need to bottle neck content the way this Dev Team is. They need to do some serious Itemization work. Stronghold Set, DD set, Faction set, HNM set, and Crafted Set should all be comparable with different specializations.

Stronghold Set = Massive PvE set = Stats Leaning Toward Balance of Defense and Offense

DD Set = Party Raid Set = Party Role Specialization Set

Faction Set(Requires Leve Quests) = Solo Set = Specializes in Solo Stats (Block Parry Evade Acc Mag Acc Healing)

HNM + Crafted = Well Balanced Armour with Materia Mods Available