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  1. #15711
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    AxHell's Avatar
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    Axhell Limbuscompany
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    Zodiark
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Blueyes View Post
    Rescue
    I haven't seen many healers using Rescue but when it was used, it was very helpful and epic. For example, in the Keeper of the lake dungeon at the second boss, the big airship that loves to set things on fire, I got stuck on the other side of the arena because of the flame rings, separated from my party.

    The healer saw me and rescued me to their side and I was able to lay the smackdown on that boss. He got my comm.
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  2. #15712
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    Daeriion_Aeradiir's Avatar
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    Daeriion Aeradiir
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by NephthysVasudan View Post
    You cant reach this instance fight without going through great gubal library...there's just flat no excuse.
    Minor nitpick, but it's entirely possible for someone to never touch Gubal, since the story jump potion skips you right past it. One of my alts never actually saw it until well after he had hit 70, for example.
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  3. #15713
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    Tridus's Avatar
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    Cecelia Stormfeather
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    Cactuar
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ko_ View Post
    You have a point and I agree.. they need to update the system. As it is.. it's really hard to tell the difference between someone who cares and everyone else.
    This right here is the core problem with the mentor system. It doesn't distinguish "I want to help teach newbies the game" and "I wanted a nifty looking crown".

    Mentor status was never meant to denote someone has a high end player. All it's meant to say is "I can help you learn the game". The community came up with any expectations on top of that, and then the bad mentors piled on and made the good ones look bad. I often don't have the crown on because if my goal is just to give advice in someone's first run through a dungeon, it's completely unnecessary (and invites drama if I do make a mistake). Of course, not having it on while doing that doesn't help address the mentor perception issue, since I don't look like a mentor despite being one.
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    Survivor of Housing Savage 2018.
    Discord: Tridus#2642

  4. #15714
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    Tridus's Avatar
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    Cecelia Stormfeather
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    Cactuar
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    My understanding is that your choice is either taking that side path there, or a different side path later when you reach the second miniboss chamber with only 3 out of 4 needed cells. In any case we'd already spent the time in the room and just had to actually pick up the cell to make it not-wasted.
    You're correct, if you skip that side room (which is normal in my experience), when you get to the second barrier you turn south and kill two mobs to grab one there for your last one.

    Come to think of it, I'm pretty sure they also kept running ahead while I was the one picking up dropped cells from enemies.
    What I've seen levelling DRK lately is that the expectation is the tank won't stop. A ranged DPS usually does it while the rest keep going, as they can catch up and rejoin the fight easily. They may have thought you were going to do that and then just decided to do it themselves when you stopped. Would have been nice if they'd explained that, of course.
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    Survivor of Housing Savage 2018.
    Discord: Tridus#2642

  5. #15715
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    Avatre's Avatar
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    Avatre Drakone
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    Cactuar
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Tridus View Post
    What I've seen levelling DRK lately is that the expectation is the tank won't stop. A ranged DPS usually does it while the rest keep going, as they can catch up and rejoin the fight easily. They may have thought you were going to do that and then just decided to do it themselves when you stopped. Would have been nice if they'd explained that, of course.
    I've typically seen the healer be the one to pick it up, or a melee DPS since they are right there. Though, more often than not I see the tank grabbing it(most of the time nobody runs ahead though).
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  6. #15716
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    Iscah's Avatar
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Bismarck
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Tridus View Post
    What I've seen levelling DRK lately is that the expectation is the tank won't stop. A ranged DPS usually does it while the rest keep going, as they can catch up and rejoin the fight easily. They may have thought you were going to do that and then just decided to do it themselves when you stopped. Would have been nice if they'd explained that, of course.
    Yeah, I get that generally (automatic instinct is to pick it up but if I do, I'll stop myself halfway through and move on), but this time it was so upside down I was picking them up because the DPSes had already run off without collecting it!

    Related question, I guess - when you get to the field generators and have to interact with them so the ochu appears, is the tank expected to do that or is it someone else's job? I seem to have trouble locking onto the ochu quickly after interacting with the generator, plus it seems more logical to stand there, let someone else handle the generator and pick it up as soon as it spawns, but the other day (different run) I tried doing it that way and everyone else just stood there apparently expecting me to do it....
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  7. #15717
    Player
    Tridus's Avatar
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    Cecelia Stormfeather
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    Cactuar
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Avatre View Post
    I've typically seen the healer be the one to pick it up, or a melee DPS since they are right there. Though, more often than not I see the tank grabbing it(most of the time nobody runs ahead though).
    Ah. Well, at least we can all enjoy the fickle nature of DF?

    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Yeah, I get that generally (automatic instinct is to pick it up but if I do, I'll stop myself halfway through and move on), but this time it was so upside down I was picking them up because the DPSes had already run off without collecting it!

    Related question, I guess - when you get to the field generators and have to interact with them so the ochu appears, is the tank expected to do that or is it someone else's job? I seem to have trouble locking onto the ochu quickly after interacting with the generator, plus it seems more logical to stand there, let someone else handle the generator and pick it up as soon as it spawns, but the other day (different run) I tried doing it that way and everyone else just stood there apparently expecting me to do it....
    Yeah that is weird.

    For the generator, I usually see the tank do it because the tank usually gets there first. It can be frustrating if people then jump on it the second it appears and you have to get it back off them.
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  8. #15718
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    Mhaeric Llystrom
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 97
    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    My understanding is that your choice is either taking that side path there, or a different side path later when you reach the second miniboss chamber with only 3 out of 4 needed cells. In any case we'd already spent the time in the room and just had to actually pick up the cell to make it not-wasted.

    Come to think of it, I'm pretty sure they also kept running ahead while I was the one picking up dropped cells from enemies.

    Peleton just seems unnecessary at the rate some people cast it. One or two seconds away from the next enemy? *whoosh, go faster!* ...that irks me a little at the best of times, but it's okay if everything is otherwise going normally. In combination with how much they were rushing through and not waiting for me, it's just an extra layer of feeling hassled.
    That first side room is a pain in the arse. Locked door, web mechanic, and three adds that spawn after entry in different parts of the room. Compare that to two fixed mobs a short distance north of the final lock. It's a no-brainer which one should be chosen. Please don't take that first side room. It's annoying.

    And if you get pissed off by Peleton, then I don't know what to say. It costs literally nothing (no resource or even a gcd or heck even a cooldown) for a BRD/MCH to cast, and speeds up the run. There is nothing negative about it. If a Bard is running ahead of you then they're going to be just as far ahead regardless of whether or not they used Peleton since you have the exact same speed buff they do. The only difference with respect to Peleton specifically is in your perception of the skill being used, which has nothing to with the Bard and everything to do with you.
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  9. #15719
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    Ryuseigoes's Avatar
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    Auron Ostyrkoensyn
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    Kujata
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    Paladin Lv 78
    I'm sorry I have to vent here, but I cannot believe the AUDACITY of some people in this game!

    I queue up for an expert roulette on my normal PLD job, its the usual instant queue etc. I load into the dungeon and its Hell's Lid, a simple enough dungeon and easy with the good DPS we had. Anyway I'm loaded in and I see my team: everyone's a lalafell. This is the reassurance I needed to know this is going to be the smoothest expert I've ever encountered. But there's one thing off about this group of people I'm queued with.

    One of them is a Hyur.

    Not only is she a Hyur, but she shares the same namesake as me, but also proceeds to /pet me... how rude can you be!? Not only are you ruining the lalafell only party, but you're also petting me. None of the other lalas, only me... I am disgusted!

    But aside from that it was a smooth run, no real hiccups, the bosses went down easy and I have no real complaints.
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  10. #15720
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    Avatre's Avatar
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    Avatre Drakone
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    Cactuar
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ryuseigoes View Post
    I'm sorry I have to vent here, but I cannot believe the AUDACITY of some people in this game!

    I queue up for an expert roulette on my normal PLD job, its the usual instant queue etc. I load into the dungeon and its Hell's Lid, a simple enough dungeon and easy with the good DPS we had. Anyway I'm loaded in and I see my team: everyone's a lalafell. This is the reassurance I needed to know this is going to be the smoothest expert I've ever encountered. But there's one thing off about this group of people I'm queued with.

    One of them is a Hyur.

    Not only is she a Hyur, but she shares the same namesake as me, but also proceeds to /pet me... how rude can you be!? Not only are you ruining the lalafell only party, but you're also petting me. None of the other lalas, only me... I am disgusted!

    But aside from that it was a smooth run, no real hiccups, the bosses went down easy and I have no real complaints.
    /petstheprettylala
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