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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    I think Thordan was built up enough from the start, but there was so much left unresolved by the point of the end credits that it didn't really feel like a satisfying ending. The Dragonsong arc was much more the proper ending to Heavensward's story, and covered all the points that were missing - particularly resolving Estinien's story, and that lovely moment of seeing Haurchefant and Ysayle once more (which I had *really* expected to happen at 'the end' of Heavensward, so it felt like it had been missed when the credits rolled).

    On the other hand, I'd say Azys Lla itself was a very jarring "sudden shift" from this beautiful fantasy world to a weird alien high-tech wasteland. The sky makes it look like we're not even on the same planet any more.
    Tbh I don't think they really set up thordan that well, the first time they have shown him, they also put elidubus and lahabrea on his sides, they could've just left a giant sign with bad guy written on it, not like that him beign a religious figure was already a sign, I mean they could've aired Sean Bean to be his VA since they were there.
    Beside that we had really few times with him and while we had even less with nidghogg we could see his effect around us, as in the effect of the dravanian horde, the heretics and so on, Zenos on the other hand had plenty of screentime which made him more of a characters than a simple figurehead (because both Thordan and Nidhogg are essentially figureheads), we also had a glimpse of his psyche and his ways, which made us understand what he was doing and what were his aspirations.
    Which brings me to Thordan, what was his goal in going to Azys Lla exactly? The war at that time was effectively over, yet he said he wanted to excise the evil of the dravanian horde which by then was completely quelled because nidhogg was dead, I mean It feels like they had to fit the allagans in the story somehow to me and what's worse they didn't do anything with the zone
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remedi View Post
    Which brings me to Thordan, what was his goal in going to Azys Lla exactly? The war at that time was effectively over, yet he said he wanted to excise the evil of the dravanian horde which by then was completely quelled because nidhogg was dead, I mean It feels like they had to fit the allagans in the story somehow to me and what's worse they didn't do anything with the zone
    Just going to answer this question because I have far too much time on my hands. The reason why Thordan went to Asyz Lla was to absorb the primal essences of the Warring Triad. When a member of the Warring Triad is first awakened, they are in an incredibly weakened, almost dreamlike state. Thordan would have had the Heaven's Ward disable the Allagan restraints and defense mechanisms, then absorbed them into Ascalon to add onto his already monumental power while the primals were weak. If he succeeded, he would have been unstoppable. His overarching goal was not only to end the Dragonsong War, but to act as the judge, jury and executioner for all of mankind, serving as a literal god to the peoples of not only Eorzea, but the entire world.

    Unfortunately, the base story of Heavensward didn't convey the stakes properly. We find all of this out in the Warring Triad questline, which occured after the main story, so Asyz Lla seems out of place when we first encounter it.
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