[BLM Suggestion] Raise spell using Foul stack.

[TaiyoShikasu]

That's silly. Black mage should do enough damage so people don't care it doesn't have a Raise variant. Besides, if it gets one just to please a minority, that'd be a huge misstep on SE's part. Never pander to a minority.

Personal DPS =/= raid DPS.

Bringing all the damage in the world doesn't matter if it doesn't synergize with the party.

The issue at hand is blm not being wanted in parties right? There's a solution without needing to overhaul jobs: make double caster output a competitive compared vs the normal physical damage speed groups and the solo smn prog groups. Make drk apply some low but basically permanent magic vuln up on target by like 2-5% from one of their combos. Blm/smn/drk becomes relevant group, party gets a dps raise, and 2 jobs that are often considered off meta get some spotlight for once.

Black mage would probably still be looked down on as summoner and red mage bring more to the party besides a rez or raw damage.

[Ceallach]

Personal DPS =/= raid DPS.

Bringing all the damage in the world doesn't matter if it doesn't synergize with the party.

Would you rather bring a summoner or red mage than a black mage if the black mage still did more damage than either of the other jobs, including party buffs like Embolden and Devotion? Or are you the type of person who does one tank, one healer, and six support?

[TaiyoShikasu]

Would you rather bring a summoner or red mage than a black mage if the black mage still did more damage than either of the other jobs, including party buffs like Embolden and Devotion? Or are you the type of person who does one tank, one healer, and six support?

I generally don't care about composition as long as the content is cleared. Not to say a dragoon being present doesn't make my toes curl, but it's not the end of the world if there isn't one.

If the black mage is a better player than the summoner or red mage, I and others would take the black mage, but if that isn't the case, then it's going to be about the summoner or red mage.

[Ceallach]

I generally don't care about composition as long as the content is cleared. Not to say a dragoon being present doesn't make my toes curl, but it's not the end of the world if there isn't one.

If the black mage is a better player than the summoner or red mage, I and others would take the black mage, but if that isn't the case, then it's going to be about the summoner or red mage.

That's great of you. Truly.

Let me ask a different question. Considering how roles work in the game, how would support fit in as its own role?

[Zerathor]

Black mage would probably still be looked down on as summoner and red mage bring more to the party besides a rez or raw damage.

If blm+smn group could rival a damage group comp, they wouldn't cut off 1000-2000 dps by subbing out blm for rdm if there's already a dps raise. If that many raises were required, that group isn't going far.