All Greed on Alliance loot

[Nestama]

Well, to be fair, the reason people are using the class they want to gear up is to an extent caused by the loot system... But the all greed is very much not the solution to people wanting to maximize their chances of getting a certain piece when it does finally drop on the 20th run.

The best idea I've seen is still the idea that if you run the raid a few times during a week without getting anything from the bosses, it would give a token that counts as your weekly drop and could be turned into one piece of gear from the raid.
It would cap the amount of times people have to run it weekly to gear up.

So would it be something similar to the Challenge Log (after doing content X times you get token, but if you don't finish it by reset, then progress is lost), or the tome system (can only gather {amount} per week, but erase what has been acquired)? Also would getting a piece from the raid erase your token progress (since SE seem to really like their one item per week rule), or no?

[CaptainLagbeard]

So would it be something similar to the Challenge Log (after doing content X times you get token, but if you don't finish it by reset, then progress is lost), or the tome system (can only gather {amount} per week, but erase what has been acquired)? Also would getting a piece from the raid erase your token progress (since SE seem to really like their one item per week rule), or no?

Well, I don't know how exactly it would work, or if the game would even support it. But it would be something like the challenge log, but it would have to get locked once you loot a piece of gear from the raid as it's not supposed to be a second loot, but rather an alternative to the raid not giving you chances to roll for your loot.

[BillyKaplan]

A challenge-log-esque system does sound like the ideal. They could even make it relatively easy on themselves by actually adding it to the challenge log (hide it from us if they feel inclined, just use the system). The award given to you when you hit the max is a gear token. To get around the problem of giving you multiple tokens per week, runs you continue doing (for whatever reason) on that week might still tick for the challenge, but when you hit max it'll check if you're still eligible or not. If not, it just silently goes into the shadows.
They'll still need to add some minor tweaks but the core system for something like this already exists.