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  1. #11
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    RokkuEkkusu's Avatar
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    I stay subbed because I want to feel the thrills of combat. I want to help others when I can. I want to decorate my houses. I want to talk to others whether it's in-game chat, discord, forums, etc.

    If I didn't like the gameplay or how FFXIV, I would have unsubbed long time ago. In fact, I wouldn't even play FFXIV today.

    As far as the app goes, IDC. I have enough gil, items, a house, and friends to be satisfied. I am the type that believe that a little goes a long way. Helping others, saving up, and living within my means are key to maintain satisfaction with what I have earned.

    I mean, if people want to go OCD with their "undercut by 1 gil" shenanigans every minute through reading the app, it really doesn't affect me much. Also, it is up to the buyers of the MB products on whether or not to entertain these people with purchases.
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    "Break a warrior's body, and he will thirst for vengeance. Break his spirit, and he will clamor for peace. Judge my methods distasteful if you will - but know that I seek to end this conflict, not prolong it." - Yadovv Gah, Final Fantasy XIV A Realm Reborn

  2. #12
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    Rinuko's Avatar
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    Lele Inoch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callinon View Post
    You are the problem.
    Lmao

    Yes one single person actually can see the benefit of the optional features is 'the problem'.

    Quote Originally Posted by MiraKershaw View Post
    1. This post is as sad as the ones your trying to counter
    Aww you're no fun!

    If we're gonna be serious for a moment. There is so many threads poping up where people CLAIMS to quit over such small things. An app? Come on.

    I can understand if you get bored with the game and don't like it anymore but optional apps? yeah....



    Quote Originally Posted by Magic-Mal View Post
    Unlike the other posts that actually have a purpose, this one has no purpose.
    Hey now, i want to let the devs know i still stay subbed. That's important too!
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    Last edited by Rinuko; 04-21-2018 at 08:32 PM.

  3. #13
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    Sari Mogari
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    I too stay subbed to make passive-aggressive threads to make genuine concerns look silly.
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  4. #14
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    I don't understand jokes, op please explain.
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  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corue View Post
    I too stay subbed to make passive-aggressive threads to make genuine concerns look silly.
    I wasn't aware it's passive-agressive saying you love the game and stay subbed. TIL
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  6. #16
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    Rufuso Aesir
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    Quote Originally Posted by F_Maximillian View Post
    Honestly, even if they don't do anything but add more convenience, even if it isn't "p2w" we're still being nickel and dimed on a service we pay for with the expectation that we're getting the full package. It's part of why I don't really bother with modern console games because of the prevalence of DLC and the notion that you can sell someone half a game then make them buy the other half later, intentionally releasing half finished products to double dip on people's wallets. QoL features should never be linked to an outside microtransaction system in a game we buy and pay a subscription for. What other future QoL features will be locked behind a paywall? Where do you draw the line? Because if you don't draw a line limits will be pushed far beyond what you expect or want.
    Well said
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by DevonEllwood View Post
    #Deletetheforums
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    Baby, tell me, what's your motive?

  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rinuko View Post
    If we're gonna be serious for a moment. There is so many threads poping up where people CLAIMS to quit over such small things. An app? Come on.
    How can someone be this blind? It is not a small thing, this is how EA and the like started out too. Do you know where EA ended up? or the likes of phone games? government is having to step in, Some countries are threatening to putting embgros on some games (in fact it is "if you do not do this, you will not be allowed to sell x game in our country"), I do not find that small.

    It is more out of spite of concpt, "I refuse to support cash grabby so I unsub, you are here to rip us off more then trying to add 'convenience" You are the exact target group for these shady practices, those that can't think for themselves, those that do not know how to value a dollar.

    It is the concept on where the gaming industry is heading, charging extra for stuff that should be in the game, save files, UI features, etc. You are paying extra, we are paying extra as a user base because SE rushed 2.0 out, the same mistake why 1.0 failed. Gaming companies want to try rush out half finished games and concepts so they can charge us later for. This is exactly why I made this:
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...if-it-continue
    the gaming industry as a hole is heading down a bad path, maybe it is time to relive the crash of 1983. Do you even know what pulled us out from that? I will give you a hint, it is a company still active today, while being the least involved in double dipping being cash grabby (not sure how far their phone apps can go but ya...)
    Quote Originally Posted by Rinuko View Post
    I wasn't aware it's passive-agressive saying you love the game and stay subbed. TIL
    You are being passive aggressive and you know it, acting like your not does not change the fact. If you legit can't see what this app is and really not trolling, I feel sorry for you. That kind of thing lets you be easily manipulated.
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    Last edited by Vstarstruck; 04-22-2018 at 03:26 AM.

  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rinuko View Post
    Lmao

    Yes one single person actually can see the benefit of the optional features is 'the problem'.
    Not by yourself of course, but you're an example of it. You're happy to pay and pay and pay just because SE dangles something in front of you regardless of the fact that you're already paying for this. You're what's known as a "whale" in free-to-play markets. And that's fine, but own it. You're paying for a subscription game and then happily shelling out extra cash on top of that. The entire point of the subscription model is that you get the whole package for your subscription.

    I don't dislike free-to-play games. I'm actually having a lot of fun right now with Tree of Savior. But it's not trying to be both at the same time.
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  10. #20
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    Aylin Bielawska
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    To add to what Callinon said, we're not only going through with the subscription model, we're also purchasing every expansion for what is essentially the price of a new game. Additional subscriptions and fees and schemes does become overwhelming to anyone with an active budget.
    I've not unsubbed yet, not for this. But it is starting to feel like we're getting ready to go from FFXIV: Stormblood, to FFXIV: Ed, Edd, n' Eddy, and it's ok for players, potential, lost, or otherwise, to not like it.
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    Last edited by MintnHoney; 04-22-2018 at 03:25 AM.

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