Most samurais ive met never used AOE

[LinXiaoMei]

I use it but honestly the damage from it is so insignificant you're better of just shredding the adds one at a time.

[Exiled_Tonberry]

I use it but honestly the damage from it is so insignificant you're better of just shredding the adds one at a time.

Wut? The point of aoe damage is that it's weaker but It'll kill everything faster.
You never single target enemies when there's a mob of 3 or more, unless it's to simply keep your buffs up like Twin Snakes or Huton.

[LinXiaoMei]

Wut? The point of aoe damage is that it's weaker but It'll kill everything faster.
You never single target enemies when there's a mob of 3 or more, unless it's to simply keep your buffs up like Twin Snakes or Huton.

Except as a SAM you kinda need to single target enemies to keep your buffs & debuffs up. It's more efficient to single target them as opposed to use your AOEs due to the TP cost alone. I won't lie about your Midare Setsugekka comment though the sound of that going off for us is pure ecstasty. Its just less efficient cost wise to use AoEs for us we're better off just getting our debuffs off on them one at a time before using even thinking of using an AoE. This is just my personal experience though, I won't say that I'm playing my class 100% optimally or efficiently but I can say I'm being quiet efficient.

Excuse me if I repeat things as I type... my mind is so jumbled. I'm a mess.

[Mendalas]

I always open with my 2 single target combos that buff my damage and skill speed. Always use Goken for trash pulls when there is 3+ mobs. Once my buffs are up, then I use the AOE combos Fuga - Oka, Fuga - Mengetsu and Goken for the finisher always. Once my damage and haste buff falls off I do the single target combo to refresh them again. Seems more efficient but I'm no expert... Also, by the time I need to refresh the damage/haste buff, the mobs are pretty much dead in level 70 dungeons with i350 gear fully melded. Can also throw in Meikyo Shisui to bypass Fuga. For the 3rd proc of that I sometimes use it to refresh damage or haste buff to keep aoe'ing. Lots of different things you can do there but definitely good to open with single target combo's for the personal buffs that you get before aoe'ing like crazy

[duvvvv]

Except as a SAM you kinda need to single target enemies to keep your buffs & debuffs up. It's more efficient to single target them as opposed to use your AOEs due to the TP cost alone. I won't lie about your Midare Setsugekka comment though the sound of that going off for us is pure ecstasty. Its just less efficient cost wise to use AoEs for us we're better off just getting our debuffs off on them one at a time before using even thinking of using an AoE.

I kind of disagree with this, because you can maintain your buffs/debuffs up and still use an aoe Iajutsu (Tenka Goken) then continue with the aoe rotation before buffing again instead of building up Midare for each mob. TP isn't even a problem, I hardly need to press on Invigorate especially if I use kenki efficiently. but if it's just for the sound of Midare you're after then I won't argue. whatever floats your boat, man.

[Mhaeric]

SAM AoE:

<3 mobs: Single target
3-4 mobs: Buff yourself with the Jinpu combo then full AoE. Shifu buff is a dps loss since it is not a large enough buff to catch up to the dps lost from not hitting multiple targets.
5+ mobs: Do not buff yourself, just use full AoE. This is the breakpoint where Jinpu is now a dps loss for the same reason as above.

[Mendalas]

SAM AoE:

<3 mobs: Single target
3-4 mobs: Buff yourself with the Jinpu combo then full AoE. Shifu buff is a dps loss since it is not a large enough buff to catch up to the dps lost from not hitting multiple targets.
5+ mobs: Do not buff yourself, just use full AoE. This is the breakpoint where Jinpu is now a dps loss for the same reason as above.

I actually found this helpful as a casual SAM player. Thanks!

[Tracewood]

How? Samurai is practically MADE for large trash pulls, every time I run a dungeon I go on SAM. Though I'd wager this is a problem for every melee, I've seen single target casters and BRDs too.

[Tanathya]

Except as a SAM you kinda need to single target enemies to keep your buffs & debuffs up. It's more efficient to single target them as opposed to use your AOEs due to the TP cost alone. I won't lie about your Midare Setsugekka comment though the sound of that going off for us is pure ecstasty. Its just less efficient cost wise to use AoEs for us we're better off just getting our debuffs off on them one at a time before using even thinking of using an AoE. This is just my personal experience though, I won't say that I'm playing my class 100% optimally or efficiently but I can say I'm being quiet efficient.

If you're doing that, you're very, very far from being anything close to efficient.

[AppleJinx]

Surprise! Most players you meet in roulettes are bad.