Seeing Square Enix in a new light. I am grateful for this game.

[silverlunarfox]

At least Tera doesn't have the audacity to be pay to play while still sucking money out of my pocket like a vacuum cleaner. Pick one square enix.

Yeah, explain their Elite Status though. It's just the sub without a true sub. It's like ESO that was P2P then went down another F2P + Bonus if you "sub"



Regardless the point everyone seems to be missing is there is far worse out there than FFXIV and their questionable decisions.
We still have support, regardless what the naysayers and doomsayers say.

[SilverObi]

Oh dear a positivity thread on GD? Nope OP let me tell you why your feelings are wrong. Jeez this forum has become the biggest dumpster fire in the last month or so.

This game does a lot right, it does a lot wrong, and it tries to innovate in that weird SE way that's akin to a baby animal trying to walk for the first time. I haven't tried the PS4 port of Tera yet but I have played it on PC and honestly it was fine but meh. Also wasn't a fan of their style of cash shop (really? I'm spending money to roll a dice?). There are far worse and far more predatory games out their than XIV and I'd encourage naysayers to give them a try and see if that's more their speed.

14 dollars a month?
At least Tera doesn't have the audacity to be pay to play while still sucking money out of my pocket like a vacuum cleaner. Pick one square enix.

I pay 11.99 myself (Legacy + 1 retainer) and that's all I need. If someone wants to spend the money on all those retainers purely to play Capitalism, Ho! then they are free to do as they wish. But none of them are needed to enjoy the game or make money. Five dollar for premium features on an app with the bonus of more inventory? XI kinda did it first with the security token bonus of the Mog Satchel and it cost twice as much as Premium will if I remember correctly. Hell they even charge money for 2 more Mog Safes in XI and that game is inarguably more intensive and focused on inventory due to gearswapping and could be construed as an advantage over non-paying players (but then they also have myriad free inventory as well).

And no Tera doesn't ask for a sub but it does ask for Elite status and offers PLENTY of perks for it that can be considered p2w or pay for advantage (p4a?) in the rhetoric being painted lately and it has the audacity to ask you to pay for lootboxes that are literal gambling as opposed to the mog station giving you exactly what you pay for.

[kidalutz]

Honestly... grumpy as I get bitchy as I get I still rather enjoy the community for the most part. the gameplay is amaze too but it's really the people that keep me vested in the game.

[KaldeaSahaline]

If that framerate issue was on ff14 SE would be making a public apology and fixing it day 1 regardless of the difference in profit/team size, because they have a sense right and wrong.

Just to touch on this, SE has a Mac client that was/is a meme not only because of how bad it was, but how little it was supported. They even charged you separately for it, which was not only ironic given how awful it was, but it also went against industry standard.

Why did you mention profit/team size? Maybe I missed the context of relevance since I'm responding to a post not directed at me.

[silverlunarfox]

Just to touch on this, SE has a Mac client that was/is a meme not only because of how bad it was, but how little it was supported. They even charged you separately for it, which was not only ironic given how awful it was, but it also went against industry standard.

Why did you mention profit/team size? Maybe I missed the context of relevance since I'm responding to a post not directed at me.

Mac games are always the red headed step child tho....

[Mizunoko]

Just to touch on this, SE has a Mac client that was/is a meme not only because of how bad it was, but how little it was supported. They even charged you separately for it, which was not only ironic given how awful it was, but it also went against industry standard.

Why did you mention profit/team size? Maybe I missed the context of relevance since I'm responding to a post not directed at me.

Too bad it's not the mac client i'm talking about . SE would be smart if they dumped (maybe they did idk and i don't care to know) that thing since imo mac is uncompatible junk. Again just my opinion .

[Okamimaru]

This game isn't perfect... but no game is... no game ever will be... everyone has their own personal preferences... I like my single player rpgs turn based many others prefer action based combat... i think this game has a little something for everyone... there's literally always something to do... not alot of games can say that

[Mizunoko]

This game isn't perfect... but no game is... no game ever will be... everyone has their own personal preferences... I like my single player rpgs turn based many others prefer action based combat... i think this game has a little something for everyone... there's literally always something to do... not alot of games can say that

I agree. 100% agree.

[KaldeaSahaline]

Too bad it's not the mac client i'm not talking about . SE would be smart if they dumped (maybe they did idk and i don't care to know) that thing since imo mac is uncompatible junk. Again just my opinion .

The point is that you're being hypocritical. I'm all for praising SE for the things they do right, but you're lambasting TERA (a game I have 0 cares about) because of an awful console port while simultaneously praising SE for doing it right. Completely neglecting the fact that SE's had their own shares of porting issues to which I gave an example (one significantly more egregious than your TERA one) and you outright dismiss it.

[Krokov]

Oh dear a positivity thread on GD? Nope OP let me tell you why your feelings are wrong. Jeez this forum has become the biggest dumpster fire in the last month or so.

This game does a lot right, it does a lot wrong, and it tries to innovate in that weird SE way that's akin to a baby animal trying to walk for the first time. I haven't tried the PS4 port of Tera yet but I have played it on PC and honestly it was fine but meh. Also wasn't a fan of their style of cash shop (really? I'm spending money to roll a dice?). There are far worse and far more predatory games out their than XIV and I'd encourage naysayers to give them a try and see if that's more their speed.



I pay 11.99 myself (Legacy + 1 retainer) and that's all I need. If someone wants to spend the money on all those retainers purely to play Capitalism, Ho! then they are free to do as they wish. But none of them are needed to enjoy the game or make money. Five dollar for premium features on an app with the bonus of more inventory? XI kinda did it first with the security token bonus of the Mog Satchel and it cost twice as much as Premium will if I remember correctly. Hell they even charge money for 2 more Mog Safes in XI and that game is inarguably more intensive and focused on inventory due to gearswapping and could be construed as an advantage over non-paying players (but then they also have myriad free inventory as well).

And no Tera doesn't ask for a sub but it does ask for Elite status and offers PLENTY of perks for it that can be considered p2w or pay for advantage (p4a?) in the rhetoric being painted lately and it has the audacity to ask you to pay for lootboxes that are literal gambling as opposed to the mog station giving you exactly what you pay for.

Actually the Mog Safes are free with your Mog House it's the Mog Wardrobes 3 and 4 that you pay extra for & you can only store weapons and gear inside them. For the Mog Satchel you really don't pay extra for it per se you just attach a security token to your account and you get it automatically. A security tokens depending where you buy it isn't that expensive either.