The premium app is what finally made me unsub.

[Aerlana]

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SE continue adding more and more way to take our money... and the 3 years old promises are always waiting...
Ok they want to make money, ok they have project for this, but clearly, projects are not for FFXIV... this is the matter

Being a company doesnt excuse to take all way money without doing promised effort, some F2P get far more morality sense than FFXIV...

[ManuelBravo]

SE continue adding more and more way to take our money... and the 3 years old promises are always waiting...
Ok they want to make money, ok they have project for this, but clearly, projects are not for FFXIV... this is the matter

Being a company doesnt excuse to take all way money without doing promised effort, some F2P get far more morality sense than FFXIV...

Huh...you do know what the number one rule of a business is right? this is not a charity type of business in case people have not noticed. SE has added to existing member basic content with their patches just not enough for people to be satisfied to an extend.

It's not a matter of morality, they do their part and while many may not agree it's up to us the consumer who are using a service they provided based on their terms. We don't have to play it / use what ever options they give us. IF F2P games are so great why are people comparing it to a game that is not a F2P to begin with? Just silently quit and go play something else. We the poor souls that enjoy this game and don't mind paying for things that we choose to do will waste our funds to help enhance a need that we have and SE is meeting based on their business model.

[Aerlana]

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Some way to ask money to customers are more moral than others. SE clearly did choose a way that doesnt care this... nothing to see with charity or anything else. I know they have to make money.

Just, F2P are known to try to catch whales and make they pay as much as possible... While originally, subscription system didnt have this immoral way to do... FFXIV go on the 2 way same time. This is the matter.

And so, you say to go away silently? No, because i care the game. . . And FFXIV's team know i speak again and again all those shit because i care...

[Ruf]

Huh...you do know what the number one rule of a business is right? this is not a charity type of business in case people have not noticed. SE has added to existing member basic content with their patches just not enough for people to be satisfied to an extend.

It's not a matter of morality, they do their part and while many may not agree it's up to us the consumer who are using a service they provided based on their terms. We don't have to play it / use what ever options they give us. IF F2P games are so great why are people comparing it to a game that is not a F2P to begin with? Just silently quit and go play something else. We the poor souls that enjoy this game and don't mind paying for things that we choose to do will waste our funds to help enhance a need that we have and SE is meeting based on their business model.

I'm really sick of reading that type of comments from you.This talk right there you are doing of the business model is really not good imo & 15years ago final fantasy was not like this, I return the comment that you said "Just quit & go play something else" I do not desire se to take the route its taking right now & go along 2018 shitty cash shop influence "business model" as you claim so. I couldn't keep myself shut about your rude comments anymore MBravo, you saying good riddance to others is just plain rude & in the end... I wish... u...

[ManuelBravo]

I'm really sick of reading that type of comments from you.

Then don't read them. It's your choice to do so. It would help to understand why you hate it rather than give a vague response,

I'm really sick of reading that type of comments from you.This talk right there you are doing of the business model is really not good imo & 15years ago final fantasy was not like this, I return the comment that you said "Just quit & go play something else" I do not desire se to take the route its taking right now & go along 2018 shitty cash shop influence "business model" as you claim so. I couldn't keep myself shut about your rude comments anymore MBravo, you saying good riddance to others is just plain rude & in the end... I wish... u...

ah just saw your update. Look I don't sugar coat things and these threads just keep appearing. Sorry if they clash with you on a emotional level and as I had explained in other threads they are not meant to be offensive. I'm a logical person and being straight forward with a person is an act of respect. Therefor thank your for your reasons I will take it with an open mind and never take it personal being that I accept your perspective.

[Jybril]

Then don't read them. It's your choice to do so. It would help to understand why you hate it rather than give a vague response,
ah just saw your update. Look I don't sugar coat things and these threads just keep appearing.

And here's Manuel, coming out the woodwork on this topic once again.
You just need to learn to hold a discussion without being mean.
As you say to Ruf, you have an option not to read or even respond to these posts.
You're wasting your time telling people "Good Riddance" and telling me in another thread that I lack common sense or some thing or another.
People are so damn sick of these microtransactions. I just agree to disagree on how you feel but you don't see me being rude.