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  1. #241
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    Alleo's Avatar
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    Light Khah
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    Moogle
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    Arcanist Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by silverlunarfox View Post
    That's the issue right there. I get the reasoning, but as someone with other jobs, I'd just run at the other jobs and hope rng was in my favor. now they stripped even that away, I honestly won't be running the alliance raids as much anymore and it stinks cuz i need to play catch up atm...
    Yeah thats the reasonings for a lot of us, the simple: If you want gear for job x just play that job.

    And honestly if that other job does not even have high enough ilvl to go into that raid then it feels like that you dont play it that much anyway since the Ilvl itself is not that high like other contents in a patch.
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  2. #242
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    silverlunarfox's Avatar
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    Loki Lux
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    Lamia
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    Yeah thats the reasonings for a lot of us, the simple: If you want gear for job x just play that job.

    And honestly if that other job does not even have high enough ilvl to go into that raid then it feels like that you dont play it that much anyway since the Ilvl itself is not that high like other contents in a patch.
    Exactly. And if I had one that low ilevel, once my other jobs I use regularly are set, I'd do greeds on it to maybe get a piece or two since it would be lowest priority. Well, we shall see how this goes and if they backtrack on it...
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  3. #243
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    Gugnir's Avatar
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    Viper Lv 100
    Can't wait for the 3 bards and two healers fighting over the same piece of loot each week for glamour.
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  4. #244
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    BillyKaplan's Avatar
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    Lho Polaali
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    Moogle
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    Conjurer Lv 23
    Quote Originally Posted by Gugnir View Post
    Can't wait for the 3 bards and two healers fighting over the same piece of loot each week for glamour.
    Only now they can lose it to the tank who already didn't have competition for their gear but they don't need it either because they run savage. fun! c:
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  5. #245
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    Gugnir's Avatar
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    Fri Day
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    Viper Lv 100
    Ib4 24 man statics are a thing
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  6. #246
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    Avatre's Avatar
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    Avatre Drakone
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    Cactuar
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by silverlunarfox View Post
    Exactly. And if I had one that low ilevel, once my other jobs I use regularly are set, I'd do greeds on it to maybe get a piece or two since it would be lowest priority. Well, we shall see how this goes and if they backtrack on it...
    Pretty sure that once more feedback comes along they will have to backtrack. I know there are still a LOT of players who do Rabanaster, as the class they want the gear for, to up their alt classes. For me, it won't really have much affect, since I tend to upgrade my gear without the 24-man stuff for my main classes, and my alt classes I start working on after my main ones are done(even running the 24-mans just for the currency/cards/orchestration it drops).
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  7. #247
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    Airget's Avatar
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    Airget Lamh
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    Hyperion
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    Botanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Gugnir View Post
    Ib4 24 man statics are a thing
    You only need 8. It's not like you're fighting with 23 others when lotting on gear, as long as you have 7 others to group with you can allocate the gear as needed.
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  8. #248
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    silverlunarfox's Avatar
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    Loki Lux
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    Lamia
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Avatre View Post
    Pretty sure that once more feedback comes along they will have to backtrack. I know there are still a LOT of players who do Rabanaster, as the class they want the gear for, to up their alt classes. For me, it won't really have much affect, since I tend to upgrade my gear without the 24-man stuff for my main classes, and my alt classes I start working on after my main ones are done(even running the 24-mans just for the currency/cards/orchestration it drops).
    Yeah normally I upgrade outside of 24 man, but usually mid expansion I get super lazy so I use the 24 man gear to catch up, which used to be bearable. I know I could stop being lazy, but theres other games to play T.T I can't help that. I don't hardcore gear typically till near the end of an expansion to be ready for the next one.
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  9. #249
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    CaptainLagbeard's Avatar
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    Rhaya Jakkya
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    Odin
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    It seems that the reason was to help people with their other jobs to get gear. So that instead of having to run it with the job that you want gear with you can now run with the job you want to and get gear for the other jobs..its just sad because that hurts tanks and healers probably the most and it does not really guarantee that much of a bigger chance for the other people since you know might roll against more people. (Especially when the weekly lockout is gone) If they at least gave us tokens at the same time this would have felt less bad..so I agree with you, I really hope that the sets dont look so good otherwise farming that for glamour would be even more a nightmare than before..

    They could have easily changed this without it being negative for others by introducing tokens.

    Have daily tokens for the recent raid. This way you can get a piece of gear in the raid itself with need or greed and an extra piece per week if you run it each day. This would only be there if this is the most recent raid thus keeping olders still alive for glamour runs and as soon as a new raid comes out, the tokens will go to this new raid. This way you will help those with more than one job but keep it fair for the rest too. And for all of those that come later they can loot any item anyway for glamour and stuff.
    I think Tokens would be the best solution to make people not have to run it extra times for loot, as the biggest reason most people do is that on the first 20 times through, the loot RNG decides not to drop what people want. Most people are getting their loot on the first try when it does actually drop.
    With tokens, you wouldn't need to get the RNG to drop the correct slot item for the correct role, you just run the dungeon and turn in your token(s) to get your loot.

    Of course they'd have to make it rewarding enough to do it more than once a week, and being able to just grind endless amounts of loot wouldn't be good, so maybe increase other rewards... Gil, Tomestones and Materias...
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  10. #250
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    347SPECTRE's Avatar
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    Khirrika Moshroca
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    Midgardsormr
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Probably echoing what someone already said, but I hope the gear is ugly and has crappy stats.
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