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    Vstarstruck's Avatar
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    Beastmistress Milk
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    Balmung
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Talraen View Post
    I would agree that it's no different than Konami charging 10 dollars per save file. I don't think that's pay-to-win either. I mean, FFXI was charging for character slots from the start, and FFXIV has a higher-tier subscription with more characters since 2.0 launched. This isn't new stuff.

    My argument is not a slippery slope, because I'm not arguing that anything is going to lead to anything else. I'm not even sure what you mean by that, honestly.

    If you're willing to cancel your subscription to protest these new fees and options, more power to you. It's good to stick to your standards.
    Where do you see me saying about pay to win in that post? I was specifically talking about blocking a basic UI feature behind a paywall.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    ... really? Being able to sell more items compares to requiring to you delete your entire character should you want to start fresh? This is what people mean when you reach way too far. Is this app scummy? Yes. Few would disagree, at least in the West. But you're making silly comparisons and exaggerating how bad it is, which does little to serve your argument.

    I mean, let's dissect this. Say the Moogle Coins sell for $1. Myself and another crafter get into an undercutting war. Now I have all afternoon to play from my house while the other person needs to leave, but opts to buy Moogle Coins. Say we undercut each other by 100 gil every five minutes. They'll have spent $12 with absolutely no guarantee their item will sell before mine. Not exactly what I call "winning," even if I readily agree Moogle Coins shouldn't be a thing.
    No, your not understanding, again this has nothing to do with sell space or putting PTW advantages in the game. You do not extra fee basic UI features that should be in the base game, that act alone puts it on konami or EA, that is not an exaggeration. Something you do not agree with does not mean it is an exaggeration, stop giving them passes, it is how they keep pushing down the slippery slope, doing small concepts like that to keep pushing down more and more. Paying for 2 then 4 then 6 retainers was getting bad enough.

    Also grats you just described how they can put loot boxes in this game without being under the name "loot boxes"
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    Last edited by Vstarstruck; 04-20-2018 at 06:10 AM.