JP Only

[DNO]

For the 100th time, you don't HAVE to play with them now. Are there not any English speaking people on your server to mingle with?

omg forget it. If you think a server filled with english is the same as a server mixed then i can not go further. We must agree to disagree.

In the picture a couple of posts back here was DECLINED because of what he speaks. That does not happen on a single speaking server. If that it not clear then we will go around in circles and i can not cause im at work. (also the reason i type fast lol)

[Spellbinder]

I guess hat im trying to say is why is it ok for JP players to do it but not ok for us to want Single speaking servers?

JP Players say "JP Only" for a number of reasons. I will name two.

1.) They've had many bad experiences with NA players and want to avoid hassle.
2.) They simply don't want to deal with the English language, whether its because they feel its a hassle or they're intimidated by their inability to speak it.

If you go the Japanese section of the forums, one of the biggest if not biggest threads there is a discussion about the separation of servers the size of one of Jupiter's moons.

There are many Japanese players who want separate servers. There are also many Japanese players who enjoy the international atmosphere.

I AM NOT TRYING TO CONDONE THE JAPANESE PLAYERS USE OF THE PHRASE "JP Only"

I am simply trying to help you understand WHY they use the phrase.

Bottom Line:

You want separate servers, many of them also want separate servers, and there are people who disagree with that view point.

Does that help?

omg forget it. If you think a server filled with english is the same as a server mixed then i can not go further. We must agree to disagree.

In the picture a couple of posts back here was DECLINED because of what he speaks. That does not happen on a single speaking server. If that it not clear then we will go arounf in circles and i can not cause im at work. (also the reason i type fast lol)

The difference between a server for one language rather than an international server is you may be turned down for language rather than "sorry, we don't need your class".
A person can be declined from a party for a plethora of reasons. No need to pick a battle with language. Just move on and look for another party.

[Reinheart]

Great post.

So here is another question. If they CHOSE not to play with us why is it bad that some NA players want to do the same? I got that bad apple in f11 for 7 years. But i STILL will pick any JP player as long as its the job i need lol.

I guess what im trying to say is why is it ok for JP players to do it but not ok for us to want Single speaking servers?

Eh? I don't remember seeing JP players complaining when they see NA ONRY - pretty much no one is stopping you from doing it and I think since JP players doing it, why not? They do it, you can do it too if you want. imo NA players have more tolerance since they are used to seeing those bad players normally so they can keep on trying, as for JP players who only stuck with JP games have not and they give up trying faster.

[DNO]

Eh? I don't remember seeing JP players complaining when they see NA ONRY - pretty much no one is stopping you from doing it and I think since JP players doing it, why not? They do it, you can do it too if you want. imo NA players have more tolerance since they are used to seeing those bad players normally so they can keep on trying, as for JP players who only stuck with JP games have not and they give up trying faster.

Im sorry. I meant to say why does everyone hate the idea of single speaking server on THIS forum. Not the JP one. If i am correct they are the ones that wanted the server change not us. lol Hell i did not even think about it then SE metioned it. im defending it cause i like the idea thats all.

[Spellbinder]

Call me crazy, but I don't think Reinheart is a magic 8-ball that can magically pool the minds of the US community and tell you why people are opposed to separate servers.

[DNO]

JP Players say "JP Only" for a number of reasons. I will name two.

1.) They've had many bad experiences with NA players and want to avoid hassle.
2.) They simply don't want to deal with the English language, whether its because they feel its a hassle or they're intimidated by their inability to speak it.

If you go the Japanese section of the forums, one of the biggest if not biggest threads there is a discussion about the separation of servers the size of one of Jupiter's moons.

There are many Japanese players who want separate servers. There are also many Japanese players who enjoy the international atmosphere.

I AM NOT TRYING TO CONDONE THE JAPANESE PLAYERS USE OF THE PHRASE "JP Only"

I am simply trying to help you understand WHY they use the phrase.

Bottom Line:

You want separate servers, many of them also want separate servers, and there are people who disagree with that view point.

Does that help?



The difference between a server for one language rather than an international server is you may be turned down for language rather than "sorry, we don't need your class".
A person can be declined from a party for a plethora of reasons. No need to pick a battle with language. Just move on and look for another party.

So then if im reading correctly you are saying im right in feeling the way i feel. Just like JP is right in feeling the way they feel? If so we have no debate LMAO. Jp can have JP only thats fine as long as SE makes servers i can go to and not deal with it.

[Spellbinder]

You always have the right to your opinion. You believe servers should be separate.

I on the other hand, and some other posters here, disagree with that view point. Simple as that.

[DNO]

Call me crazy, but I don't think Reinheart is a magic 8-ball that can magically pool the minds of the US community and tell you why people are opposed to separate servers.

He is not suppose to. I know why it is. Its because you hate change. Look at my sig. People hate change. What i am getting at is you slamm me for liking an idea that SE brought up but you defend JP to the death even tho they are doing the same thing.

thats silly to me.

[Spellbinder]

Wow, why did you suddenly get so rude and put words in my mouth? That's disrespectful and was totally uncalled for.

[weeble]

omg forget it. If you think a server filled with english is the same as a server mixed then i can not go further. We must agree to disagree.

In the picture a couple of posts back here was DECLINED because of what he speaks. That does not happen on a single speaking server. If that it not clear then we will go arounf in circles and i can not cause im at work. (also the reason i type fast lol)

yeah but instead of those rare occasion people go jp only, we have a server full of english and those same servers only highly populated like 4hrs a day at the same hours and then the rest of us who play all day or have strange hours are screwed. all english servers don't fix the not getting invites or sitting around if that is what is happening, most people just make there own party and then they dont wait around.

even though i didn't have these issues in ffxi that much i usually managed to get into the groups of jp or i managed to get the jp's in mine. usually as simple as having at least one jp in the group witch during the hours they are around usually happens, that speaks it and the rest will not mind joining.

on top of that having seperate servers just means both types of servers will probably be totally different in atmosphere, if you have lots of monkeys in a certain part of a jungle then it's gonna smell like monkey dung. is nice having servers full of different people. not just english or just jp.

also the major real issue right now is server population, not that some people say jp only, cause lets face it the servers are empty, it's hard to even make groups at times. don't get mad cause some of them don't want the time they put into making a party to not go wrong, it's not 100% but lot of things can go wrong for starters, english seem to be the majority of player that play a hour or 2 and then run out on you, or say gotta help friend or ls with something and leave you high and dry after you wasted time putting it together. this happens way less in jp groups, how can u get made at not wanting that to happen, if i could avoid this by saying jp only i would too.

tl,dr don't get made, make your own party. time spent waiting instead will just be worse on servers with just english cause times they log in, and casual outlooks. also only english or jp will just change the atmosphere totally. and it's not as bad as people make it out, they just get pissed when they get screwed instead of the party makers that took the time to make them.