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    Pandaemonium
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    Gladiator Lv 1
    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaSonic View Post
    You can buy clears and get the rewards if people are selling clears. Isn't that pay to win?
    Why would beating an entirely optional piece of content be "Winning"?

    Or differently put, if beating Savage easier was "Winning", wouldn't getting a higher score in the Fashion Report be as well? Both are optional pieces of content. Both can be beaten without paying. Both are non-competitive, as beating it has no impact on other players trying it.

    If getting a paid advantage in Savage was "Pay to Win", therefore the dyes they sell would also be "Pay to Win", as those frequently give an advantage in the Fashion report.

    And while that may sound absurd, it's a consequence of people not giving a clear definition of P2W and relying on examples and nebulous implied definitions that often contain double standards to boot. It's why I find the entire P2W debate both funny and pointless.
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    Last edited by Zojha; 04-17-2018 at 11:12 PM.