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  1. #11
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    Squintina's Avatar
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    Squintina Nightgard
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    Faerie
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Aerlana View Post
    i did on french forum a troll topic where i suggest a premium sub for the forum, to go thru the 1000 character limit or post per day limit.
    Maybe, with mogcoins we could do it. 1 mog coin = 1 post with more than 1000 character without edit!
    Part of me wants to say "No, never. As a pro-sub, anti-cash shop person I can't possibly ever support monetization for forums"
    Then the part of me that hates having to edit my posts, or hates the days where I'm seeing a lot of good topics and I type out a reply only to get that "you've reached the limit" post afterwards (because of course they don't show you the message upon hitting the reply button immediately so you don't have to waste timing writing up the reply in the first place).....well that part of me is like "well.....what's the price?"
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  2. #12
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    MrPresident's Avatar
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    Casper Colt
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    Cerberus
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Airget View Post
    Sigh, no. What does Market Board use do to make PVE content easier? . . . .
    Gil can buy you a clear for any content in the entire game. Not sure why people keep saying gil does nothing in this game. If you have enough of it, it can literally do anything. And the market board is the primary way to amass substantial amounts of gil.
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  3. #13
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    Dustytome's Avatar
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    Fox Briarthorn
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    Sargatanas
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    Culinarian Lv 100
    Mounts and glamour items would be an obvious choice. Just make them cost a certain number of kupo nuts so someone would have to log in to the app every day for like a month to get an item, maybe make it just enough that it's over the free user cap and long enough that a paid user is going to impulse buy it anyway. The garden tending would be nice if it just tended everything at once, although if they did that they had better add a whole garden tending function in game as well.
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  4. #14
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    DreadRabbit's Avatar
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    Evy Malaguld
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 58
    Housing Plot purchasing. Don't want to stay up at ungodly hours of the morning waiting after the next patch for the next Housing Savage? Pay for Moogle Coins so your army of moogles can camp open plots for you. They'll automatically be ahead in a queue. All you have to do is set preferred gil limits and the housing area size/location preference.

    Wouldn't be surprised if Moogle Coins could be used for Mogstation items too. That's about the only good I foresee coming from them.
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  5. #15
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    Laerad3993's Avatar
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    Aisha Clan-clan
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 60
    AFAIK from what was translated and have read, the nuts/coins are purely for listing and buying. Where are people getting this idea that they stack and give you items instead of having to use Gil?
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  6. #16
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    Gralna's Avatar
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    Gralya Arodica
    World
    Goblin
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    Scholar Lv 100
    If those godforsaken things ever do make it into the main game, could easily seem them being used for:
    • Resetting weekly lockouts
    • Need rolls
    • Priority listing on MB
    • HQ item upgrade
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  7. #17
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    MilanFrozen's Avatar
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    Milan Frozen
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    Midgardsormr
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    Black Mage Lv 70
    Unlock even more retainers (but you'll still need to pay for them).

    They could implement a system where logging in gives you exp that you can give to your character. Coins could then be used to double this exp.
    They could implement a system where you can send your character on missions that make it so you can't play the game for x amount of time until you return. Then they could make coins have you return faster.

    Could be used to make your retainers come back from ventures faster.

    They could implement a system with an 'app exclusive class' in which only 'premium members' can use but you still need to pay coins to unlock it.
    They could implement a system with 'app exclusive quests' in which only 'premium members' get access to the quests, but you still need to pay coins to unlock them.
    They could implement a system where you can mine resources in the app but only for 'premium members' but you still need to pay coins to unlock that feature.
    They could let you manage your grand company garrison missions and add more for 'premium members only' but you still need to pay coins to unlock it.
    They could implement 'app exclusive cosmetics' in which only 'premium members' get access to them, but you still need to pay coins to unlock them.
    They could implement a system where you pay the moogles to off a player IRL, but you still need to pay coins to unlock them. (satire)
    They could implement a system where you get the latest live letters translated for 'premium members' , but you still need to pay coins to unlock them and it's just a link to their twitter account.
    They could implement a system where you...at this point I can only think of horribly horrible things that are way too obviously satire.
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  8. #18
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    Vstarstruck's Avatar
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    Beastmistress Milk
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    If I had to guess, maybe ventures. Can't see them being used for anything else tho. I do love Fhaerrons immediate jump to rediculous though.
    Sure it was hyperbole, but is there a reason you attack people being critical of what is SE is doing? Or did you just miss the point of the post completely?

    But ya they can use it as a fast lane for queues, bypassing housing lockout, having special housing wards gated by this, bypass the 45 auto demo, speed up retainer ventures, extra ventures, bypassing the allowance on the 4 limit of sending out airships/subs, Buying buffs that act like grade 3 housing buffs, maybe even having grade 4, access to access to premium duties, resetting weekly and daily stuff, buying extra posts here, the list goes on, that is the fear, people do not know how far SE is willing to push down the slippery slope.

    Quote Originally Posted by Laerad3993 View Post
    AFAIK from what was translated and have read, the nuts/coins are purely for listing and buying. Where are people getting this idea that they stack and give you items instead of having to use Gil?
    Basically this thread was made because they said they where planning to have coins buy more things, but basing it on feedback. Past that I do not get what your asking.
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    Last edited by Vstarstruck; 04-17-2018 at 02:47 PM.

  9. #19
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    Fhaerron's Avatar
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    Fhaerron Kobayashi
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    Twintania
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Airget View Post
    Sigh, no. What does Market Board use do to make PVE content easier? . . . . Nothing. Exactly. It only allows you to buy/sell product without needing to log into the game.
    Sigh, maybe read the actual post of the OP?

    Quote Originally Posted by Solarra View Post
    So, what 'additional services' do you think they might be thinking of adding to FFXIV and how would you feel about them?
    'Additional services', the whole new letter of the producer reeks of pay 2 win and then when they say 'additional services' in the future I can see this happening.
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  10. #20
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    Solarra's Avatar
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    Sylbritt Muscadet
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 89
    Thanks for all the replies. The more I think about this the less I like it (and I didn't like it in the first place).

    I'd definitely expect them to include ventures and maybe add 'special' Ventures only available with the currency (that's not lockboxes no, nothing like them /s)
    Pay to reduce venture times? Possible
    Tedious stuff like watering the gardens very probable (forget getting a 'water all' option in-game Dusty; they'll want to keep it annoying so we'll pay to bypass it)
    Choco training - I'd say this one is a definite
    Squadron management definitely - 'special missions'? possible - pay to cut mission time? possible
    Airships and Submarines possible
    Exclusive glams and other items? Also possible
    Move items between different characters on your account? possible

    Gameplay
    What about Levelling? It does get tedious when you are out of quests and levelling another class. Don't want to splash out for a full skip potion? How about purchasable XP buffs? I could see that becoming a thing.
    Luck Potions that give you a chances to get more gil or loot? possible

    As people have said, the list is endless, and while none of these would be game-breaking on their own, they would definitely have an impact.
    My main worry is that a lot of the quality of life improvements we have asked for might now be implemented, but locked behind a paywall.
    They have already done this with storage and additional characters, now they have the App to make both payment and impulse buying easy.

    I think they'll test the waters with the App and if enough people are happy to pay for extras, then we will see a definite creep in the number of things on offer. A few at first but as time goes on, more and more (similar to the Cash Shop). It also means they will have less incentive to address any issues in the game for 'free'.

    This is very similar to the pricing in some FTP games, only in our case the sub is not optional.
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    Last edited by Solarra; 04-17-2018 at 06:49 PM.

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