Seeing Square Enix in a new light. I am grateful for this game.

[Mizunoko]

Agreed, though I do like throwing Warframe in there, while not an mmo persay went from a shaky start on console after the port, to one of the best games on there (and f2p to boot). But even Warframe at its worst stage early on, was about 20 times better than what they did with Tera. They didn't even try for that one.

And I really wish as well more mmo's utilized the same cross bar for controller play.

Completely agree with you and the person you quoted. Aside from that it's also the little things that keep me into ff14 like they actually care about those quality of life things unlike some other games. Like i can reverse BOTH x and y axis on my camera which i basically need since i play all my games like a freaking flight simulator lol. I tried going back to normal axis and i just couldn't do it. But tera for some reason had a y axis but no x axis which made things even more screwed up. It's like why didnt they add it even after people suggested it in the beta tests. It's such an easy thing to throw in the settings, the game completely lacked all UI and HUD settings. The game was just so barebone and i guess thats why i see a lot of my friends forgetting tera an dmoving onto other games now. Most people who were brave enough to say it like it was on the enmasse forums were talking about just waiting for a game called black desert online.

All i know is most of the people sticking to tera after all that crap are the types who would just white knight and stick it through even if they can't admit to themselves its trash. I did have hopes for tera as it looked like something i always wanted to get into i wanted to be a elin ninja but they are soo far behind that ninja, valkyrie, gunner or whatever still wasn't in the game. People try to defend the crap quality they rushed out by saying things like "oh well all games have their issues" or "well ff14 1.0 was trash" but to me its like tera was just as low as it got and i have played a lot of games not just tera (both mmo and non mmo). ALso 1.0 is NOT arr. ARR is 2.0+ and a complete remake. Most companies would probably not try to take responsibility and do the right thing by remaking it into something it should have been. What SE did by remaking it is something i respect. The way i feel is regardless whether they are a big or small company SE at-least holds itself to a certain standard. The experience i got with the tera port was that they didn't care how badly people thought about them and the port they did and they just wanted to rush crap out for that cashgrab. People are now starting to flame about how much of a gamble the lootboxes are for ridiculous prices. Like why spend the price of a new game just to get a lootbox that may not even give you something that appeals to you glamour wise.

[silverlunarfox]

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Yep I totally agree with you. And I was looking forward to ninja, since the bit I played on PC I actually enjoyed quite a bit to ignore some of the shortcomings of the game, but when I saw that wasn't even out....nah....For me yeah sure you can use the excuse 1.0 ffxiv was bad, but Tera has been out for how long and didnt even fix some of these issues on their PC version....at least FFXIV scrapped and redid the game to fix what they could... But yeah, the console port is totally a cash grab to the extreme. Those lootbox prices are INSANE. And I know the new FFXIV app is the new thing to rage against for its cost, but man, when weighing the two....Tera is still worse.