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    Quote Originally Posted by Hohenheim View Post
    What do you guys think? And beyond carbuncle I wonder what summons we could get maybe Valefor, Ixion, Diabolos? I for one would love Siren :3.
    Well you're forgetting that the Summoner job is confirmed as not getting the big summons. They are getting spirits and monsters I believe was the exact wording, like Carbuncle as an example (not confirmed as being used). Only Free Companies will get access to the big Primal summons and even then it'll be few and far between judging by their concept ideas.


    Quote Originally Posted by KaiKatzchen View Post
    I thought Yoshi said we aren't having a traditional SMN class/job, that it will be an ability that the player can use on any/all/some classes/jobs, then it would have to be recharged (or something like that) to be used again.

    Or did I miss something new he announced? I liked SMN, I wouldn't mind seeing it again, but I thought a pure SMN specific job/class was off the table the way he was last talking? I will GLADLY be corrected, because I really like SMN.
    Summoner has been confirmed as a job, just not getting the Primals as summons as they are gods. We'll be getting smaller things, as stated above they used Carbuncle as an example.
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    I'd agree on putting the Traditional Summon as the primals, Extremely powerful summons as the Elder primals and others as an Normal Summoned Avatar.

    Primals:
    Ifrit
    Titan
    Garuda
    Shiva
    Ramuh
    Leviathan
    Malevolent Moogle

    Elder Primals:
    Odin
    Alexander
    Bahamut
    Shinryuu
    Knights of the Round

    Summoned Avatars:
    Espers
    Eidolons
    Others

    A lot can be donee with FFXIV's summon, and I'm really interested on what Yoshi has in his mind/plan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcell View Post
    Summoner has been confirmed as a job, just not getting the Primals as summons as they are gods. We'll be getting smaller things, as stated above they used Carbuncle as an example.
    I found the interview where he says it! Someone should have linked to it lol, I hadn't heard of this interview but I am happy to see that SMN is confirmed in some form

    Link to Article where he confirms it, for those who haven't see it.
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    They are getting spirits and monsters
    that's...not what was said at all O.o
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    For now, we have :

    Primordial Primal : Bahamut

    Cute Primal : Evil Moogle

    Elemental Primals :

    Titan
    Ifrit
    Leviathan
    Garuda
    Ramuh
    Shiva

    Odin : Elder Primal

    Avatars : Carbuncle

    List of some Common Final fantasy Summons:

    Diabolos
    Fenrir
    Alexander
    Phoenix
    Ixion
    Valefor
    Siren\Ondine
    Gilgamesh
    Atomos

    Cerberus
    Maduin
    Anima
    Yojimbo
    Brynhildr
    Hecatoncheir
    Golem
    Quetzacoalt
    Pandemona (zephir)
    Eden \ Ark
    Magus sisters
    Kujata
    Bismarck
    Asura
    Hydra
    Hades
    Kirin
    Seraph
    Valigarmanda
    Pandemona
    Typhoon
    Doomtrain

    Knight of the Rounds : OMGs O_O
    12 Zodiacal Summon of Ivalice

    Now if we go with the idea that it may have elemental avatar, Which will you choose ?

    Fire : Phoenix
    Ice : ??? or Fenrir
    Lightning : Ixion
    Water : Siren or ???
    Earth : Hecatoncheir or Golem
    Wind : ?????

    But at the end whatever they choose it will be cool !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrettyPrincess View Post
    that's...not what was said at all O.o
    I agree, with my craptastic Japanese it said he said they would have a SMN, some type of pet class. Something about carbuncle being an actual "summon"... special summon (something like that), but not the primals like Ifrit, Odin, Garuda etc... non summon pet.

    Didn't see anything about spirits or monsters, unless he says it later on. I just read until SMN was confirmed (thank god it was near the start!) because my Japaneses is bad.

    Someone wanna translate? Please! Give you cookies! <3
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrettyPrincess View Post
    that's...not what was said at all O.o
    I can't seem to find the exact quote right now, though I'm searching, but I believe it was something to the effect of lesser spirits (like Carbuncle) and things like that. If I recall correctly it was around the same time they were explaining their concepts of the free company summons as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delmontyb View Post
    I like the idea that our private company can work together to summon ifrit, etc, and that it is a huge event like Yoshi pointed out.

    As for the summoner class, my hope is that with the different avatars it can summon, their role in battle will change. Meaning that thy should be versital. Summon a tank summon, summon a healing summon, summon a damage summon etc. I hope that the summoner can be diverse in their party roll. That's just my hope
    i liked your idea of heal, tank, damage summon. but i think it would be hard to balance. they would have to be weaker than PC tanks, healers, damage. but at the same time strong enough to make them worth playing, seems like that woud be a balancing nightmare
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcell View Post
    I can't seem to find the exact quote right now, though I'm searching, but I believe it was something to the effect of lesser spirits (like Carbuncle) and things like that. If I recall correctly it was around the same time they were explaining their concepts of the free company summons as well.
    actually, Yoshi said he wanted community feedback on which summons a summoner should have (besides the primals obviously.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by grandm View Post
    i liked your idea of heal, tank, damage summon. but i think it would be hard to balance. they would have to be weaker than PC tanks, healers, damage. but at the same time strong enough to make them worth playing, seems like that woud be a balancing nightmare
    probably like in ffxi just be able to do those things with lower level mobs rather then the ones a real tank can do. though they not say yet if this class is gonna be solo like in ffxi? or did they say they would like it to acually be part of real party mechanics this time around. i would really like to see even bst and smn being something we can invite an it is just as good as having a lnc or archer.

    but at most it would be cool to see like 3 different types of pet classes and all of them kinda have there own thing where having a group with all 3 becomes a very formidable grind group to do things with.
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