tiny female armors!

[Astrapls]

Never underestimate a woman's uterine powers!

(To FFXIV's credit, there's no real shortage of skimpy male outfits as well).

[Iscah]

I'm glad that XIV is largely exempt from making outfits arbitrarily more revealing on females then males.

The DRG AF's exposed midriff and the lack of an undershirt on a handful of other pieces like the BRD AF and Scylla chest pieces are about the extent of it.

I disagree. It's mostly about skirts - male characters actually get quite a variety of skirts-over-pants and we usually get just the skirts. Or pants that turn into miniskirts (eg. scholar's culottes, crafter's bottoms), or possibly just evaporate entirely (eg. cleric's culottes). Even long skirts are only decent until you get thrown around or do leaping attacks or have any of the many things happen that let you see straight up them.

Then there's things like the crafter's coatee - very nice on male characters, but a wardrobe malfunction waiting to happen on females...

[MsQi]

I disagree. It's mostly about skirts - male characters actually get quite a variety of skirts-over-pants and we usually get just the skirts. Or pants that turn into miniskirts (eg. scholar's culottes, crafter's bottoms), or possibly just evaporate entirely (eg. cleric's culottes). Even long skirts are only decent until you get thrown around or do leaping attacks or have any of the many things happen that let you see straight up them.

Then there's things like the crafter's coatee - very nice on male characters, but a wardrobe malfunction waiting to happen on females...

I love all the skirts!


I'd worry more about the Highlander Hempen top malfunctioning. But I guess only they really have to worry about that.

[Iscah]

I love the skirts too! Which is why I wish I could wear them over pants, like the male version of the equipment has built into the design.

[MsQi]

I love the skirts too! Which is why I wish I could wear them over pants, like the male version of the equipment has built into the design.

Ok, so should there be two version equip-able by both? Should There be a way to choose which version appears?

[Iscah]

Ok, so should there be two version equip-able by both? Should There be a way to choose which version appears?

Absolutely - that would be the ideal solution for me. Either two separate items* or some way to toggle between the "well-covered" and "minimal" version (and make it available for both genders!).

* Like they do with some glamour items, eg. Explorer's Tabard/Coat and the High House Bustle/Justaucorps, except not gender-locked. And unlock those too.

We've been around this in other discussions before, I know - other people have said they want more-revealing male costumes, I want less-revealing female costumes, it just makes sense to give people a choice.

[Felis]

Now explain the Shisui tanking set.

That is for tanking under water

[kikix12]

Realistically we shouldn't be able to take hits in revealing armor. Realistically we also shouldn't be able to swim, dive, backflip or run endlessly in full plate gear. When you consider that every piece of gear in game is actually weightless it matters little which body parts they cover (or don't).

That's a fiction. Heaviest armors in real life were about 20kg's. And since properly made armors distribute the weight very well, running or swimming in them is both possible and much easier than it would seem. If a marathon-runner wore a heavy armor, he still would easily outrun an average Joe or Jane without much issue. A pro-swimmer would still out-swim a once-in-a-week-for-fun swimmer as well.

Backflips...well, that's a bit different, since doing backflips at the same ground level is on the upper limit of humans ability as it is. But I could see some people with really trained legs to barely manage one.


Well, combat ones. Armors for jostling...that's where the weight was. Those were made specifically to prevent damage from a lance and fall, while on a horse, going against a person straight ahead of you. They were so limited in usefulness so making them super-heavy tin cans that prevented even getting up without help a non-issue.

[RiyahArp]

Shisui is based on samurai undergarments. The male version is exactly it, except instead of a fundoshi (thong) they gave them briefs. If you watch Akira Kurosawa's seven samurai, you can see it worn often, mostly by the hecklers in the inn who berate the farmers as they look for mercenaries. The female version is glammed up a bit, since there was no equivalent at the time for women. It makes sense also since at level cap we get full samurai plate armor for any jobs.

Never underestimate a woman's uterine powers!

(To FFXIV's credit, there's no real shortage of skimpy male outfits as well).

Please don't tell me that was from a legitimate Red Sonja comic >.< Sonja is as skimpily dressed as any male barbarian in a sword and sorcery comic or movie; check out Dar from Beastmaster for example. I really dislike artists like that who write without any historical knowledge of the genre; sword and sorcery's issues have little to do with dress and more whether or not you agree with the very rough barbarian chivalry/ethos people like Conan had.

[MaloraYuki]

In a game with a glamour system it’s everyones choice what they want to wear. If you don’t like the skimpy armor don’t glam it. If you want big tank like armor glam it. It’s not that hard. I don’t understand the issue here let people have fun, it’s not like the glamour reflects the play style.