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  1. #31
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    Vidu's Avatar
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    Vidu Moriquendi
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    If you personally like the look of a gear or glamor determines if you will go through the effort of finding all the pieces to the set or mix-and-match. Personally I found the Shisui level 63 gear to be cute and after I out-geared it I glamoured it to the other gear. But for the most part it was the same stats as ilevel 270 level 60 augmented shire gear.

    The fact that the Shisui gear at least looks like it was derived from a swimsuit should not be lost on people since you get it from the Shisui of the Violet Tides dungeon which is at the bottom of the Ruby Sea.
    I'm not sure if we're getting each others points - why is it so important to you to point out that the Shisui Set isnt actual swimwear but at least looks like it? Or that you personally liked it - no judgment here, liked the caster one myself.
    I'm just not sure what point you're trying to make when all I've been saying is: as soon as you use something as glamour-piece it becomes irrelevant how well that would protect you, since its the actual armor thats doing the job - both lore- and gameplaywise.
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  2. #32
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    KisaiTenshi's Avatar
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    Kisa Kisa
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    I'm not sure if we're getting each others points - why is it so important to you to point out that the Shisui Set isnt actual swimwear but at least looks like it? Or that you personally liked it - no judgment here, liked the caster one myself.
    I'm just not sure what point you're trying to make when all I've been saying is: as soon as you use something as glamour-piece it becomes irrelevant how well that would protect you, since its the actual armor thats doing the job - both lore- and gameplaywise.
    The Shisui gear is a full left and right gear set. It's not a "bikini" or swim trunks. The gear is quite literately what the Ruby Princess (mid boss) is wearing in the Shisui of the Violet Tides dungeon and in the cutscenes.

    I don't know, maybe you're reading more into this than I am. I feel that people who get upset over "boobsock chainmail bikini armor" rightfully are getting upset over the fact that most, if not -all- armor in other games is designed to make the one gender look ridiculous, while equivalent gear for the other gender look like a sardine can. In FFXIV, all the gear, even this Shisui set is gender-neutral, even though it looks rather silly on the big dudes.
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  3. #33
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    Does any of this matter when boss's throw things like Ki blast, pulse cannons, comets, and just general magic at you anyway?
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  4. #34
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    Most of the tank-gear is pretty heavy armor, after all - and unlike other games, where girls will get some tiny platebikini while guys get to wear the real thing, FFXIV hands out proper heavy gear to both genders when it comes to tanks, so the gender is kinda irrelevant here...
    Tank gear, mostly yes, other than the 'skirt' items that lose the padded trousers underneath when equipped to female characters.

    Other gear.... well, female members of the Ishgardian dragoons would like a word about that.
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  5. #35
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    Vstarstruck's Avatar
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    Beastmistress Milk
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    Balmung
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    How to explain skimpy tanks:
    1. Nen user
    2. Phenominal Cosmic Power, Ity Bity Living Space
    3. Kill la Kill reject with boats for shoes (I dare someone to get the reference)
    4. Kill la Kill
    5. psychic powers
    6. Wearing something so skimpy, the opposition is unable to strike a blow from gawking at you

    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    I'm not sure if we're getting each others points
    They do that a lot, i doono what it is, but no they did not understand your point, and it is common they reply to something then go so off tangent .. you just stare and go whaaa?
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    Last edited by Vstarstruck; 04-14-2018 at 10:54 AM.

  6. #36
    Player RitsukoSonoda's Avatar
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    Ritsuko Sonoda
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    Rule of most anime... Less a woman wears the more dangerous and powerful they are. Beware female characters attacking while totally nude >.>
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  7. #37
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    Vidu's Avatar
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    Vidu Moriquendi
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Other gear.... well, female members of the Ishgardian dragoons would like a word about that.
    Yeah, tha female Dragoon AF is a somewhat weird choice - I always explained it to myself by linking it to traditional dragon-lore: The reason dragons are hoarding treasures and are sleeping on them is that they're bellys are actually pretty vulnerable because tehy're not covered in thick scales. So they're laying on all those gems and pieces of gold, that are working their way into their skin, get stuck in it and create an armor - at least thats "traditional" dragon-lore, doesnt has to hold true for this game. So I always figured the uncovered belly of female dragoons was a reference to that...

    Doesnt make it less stupid, obviously - thats why I call it an "explantion" not an "excuse".
    The real reason is probably that someone thought "Hey, that would look better/sexier, lets do that!". I will ignore that and hold on to my explantion though...
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  8. #38
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    KageTokage's Avatar
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Cactuar
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    Ninja Lv 100
    I'm glad that XIV is largely exempt from making outfits arbitrarily more revealing on females then males.

    The DRG AF's exposed midriff and the lack of an undershirt on a handful of other pieces like the BRD AF and Scylla chest pieces are about the extent of it.
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  9. #39
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    Maeror Montealvo
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    I'm glad that XIV is largely exempt from making outfits arbitrarily more revealing on females then males.

    The DRG AF's exposed midriff and the lack of an undershirt on a handful of other pieces like the BRD AF and Scylla chest pieces are about the extent of it.
    DRG AF 1 was a mistake and i hope it's one that will not be repeated for AF lore themed sets. I am not opposed to reveling armor for females however, as long as the same items can be used for males. While i'll never wear the bunny outfit on my main character, others should have the option to do so. Still waiting on a corset for my female alts.











    Something for the guys.
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    Last edited by Alacran; 04-14-2018 at 11:38 PM.

  10. #40
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    Ayer Austen
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    Faerie
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    I don't think it really matters. I never cared for practical looking armors personally. In a game with magic and dragons, is realism even a relevant point of criticism.
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