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    Niraye's Avatar
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    Niraye Shiron
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    Jenova
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    Miner Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Sakuraluna View Post
    No, you’d earn kupo nuts, at a rate of one per day. Two if you subscribe to the app. I’m assuming that one would only allow you to manipulate the mb once, similar to how one venture only allows you to send a retainer out once. I can’t say whether this allows you access to a retainer so that you can change multiple entries on a single retainer, or if it only allows you to change/add/remove a single item (likely the latter) but either way you’re extremely limited by one or two nuts a day. That’s where the coins come in; you’d theoretically be able to purchase an unlimited number of those and use an unlimited number per day, and they’re only available for real money.
    so let me get this straight here. how are they gonna pull stuff out they're bum to sell it? nothing is gonna magicly appear in they're retainer. none of this makes RMT easyer at all. and your basicly spitting at crafters who sit at the market boards daily. i know a few who do nothing but sit there and just watch the prices go up and down. and what about us gathers? your going pretty far off. i mean you can already insta buy stuff on the market board / goto it in game. this just makes things easyer. im sorry but from my view point your taking it to far and WAYYY to drastic.
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    Hestzhyen Voer
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    Gilgamesh
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Niraye View Post
    so let me get this straight here. how are they gonna pull stuff out they're bum to sell it? nothing is gonna magicly appear in they're retainer. none of this makes RMT easyer at all. and your basicly spitting at crafters who sit at the market boards daily. i know a few who do nothing but sit there and just watch the prices go up and down. and what about us gathers? your going pretty far off. i mean you can already insta buy stuff on the market board / goto it in game. this just makes things easyer. im sorry but from my view point your taking it to far and WAYYY to drastic.
    It's not about RMT, it's about how they plan to make this profitable. By artificially limiting the usefulness of the app unless you pony up extra cash every time you want to exceed the extremely low allowances they give you for free, SE is hoping to annoy or pressure people into buying functionality that should already exist. If the app let you buy/sell from the MB as much as you want in both paid and free, and still kept all the perks like the extra retainer and saddlebag capacity in the paid version, there would be far less disgust and negativity.
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    Sakuraluna's Avatar
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    Malfoy Fleurentine
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Niraye View Post
    so let me get this straight here...
    At this point you’re losing me. It was my assumption that you weren’t sure how moogle coins would work, and I explained it, simple as that. I also assume that if someone has items in their retainers, that they got them from playing the game.

    Now, as far as your argument goes: I’m also not spitting on anyone. From what I gather from reading in multiple threads on this, there are actually a number of crafters and gatherers who are concerned about the implications of these transactions especially considering how prevalent bots are in gathering/mb and pvp these days. If the coins are based in micro transactions, it could easily give players with more disposable income an edge over everyone else on the mb, which could make it more annoying or even harder for you and your friends to earn gil by selling on markets that they decide to constantly undercut. Maybe it wouldn’t be that big a deal to someone who camps the mb all day as is, but plenty of players take interest in the crafting/gathering side of the game that don’t have that kind of disposable time. So how major or minor of a thing this currency will turn out to be, I can’t say, but it is a legit concern even for me just leveling my crafting and gathering classes.

    Honestly though, it is as Hestzhyen said below for those arguing against the app - it really isn’t so much about the real money aspect as it is about the general direction that SE is going with this app. First off, it’s basically a sub within a sub that unlocks micro transactions-one of which is an additional sub even. On top of it they promise us a thing for months (mb use through an app) only to let us use it once per day unless we cough up who knows how much money. Doesn’t matter if a player is interested in crafting or not, people don’t generally like to be nickel-and-dimed. And for me at least- I was fine with the mogstation as it was back in 2014 allowing new players to pick up items from seasonal events they missed, but I choose to pay a subscription-based game so I don’t have to deal with all these p2w tactics.
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    Last edited by Sakuraluna; 04-15-2018 at 10:27 AM.


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