Bunny outfits for men, not a cryptid!

[whiteblade89]

Please understand that I am not bashing the implementation of this outfit in any way. I didn't want it, but for those that did, congrats! Wear it with pride! But one of my biggest problems with this game is that there is a serious lack of anything masculine in it. Most outfits and even a lot of character models, faces, hairstyles, etc come off as overly feminine on male characters. Why do the majority of pants in this game have to be skin-tight? Why do the majority of boots have to be thigh-high? I understand that there are options out there at the moment for a masculine look, but in comparison, masculinity is way more difficult to come by in this game compared to femininity. Once again, I am not bashing anyone who likes feminine or androgynous styles. In fact I even posted my support in a thread that was advocating for an end to gender-locked glamors. I support people being able to wear what they want, so why can't I have more masculine options the same way that others seem to have a plethora of feminine options? If they're going to take time to make glamors like this for men, it would be nice if they put some more effort into allowing men to be manly when they want to be. A good place to start would be BEARDS!!! I will say it till I'm blue in the face: Give me more beard options!!!! Yes, I know there is a Santa beard, and I have it. But it would be nice if there were more options for facial hair that looked more natural. There really is no substitute for a full, natural-looking beard. But right now the only race that has any decent options are Highlander. And most of them just look like salty old men.

[Alleo]

Promising to work on something and then saying "we decided to scrap it because our workers don't want to work on it" is something a company should never do (Yoshi-P asked what players wanted, in front of a crowd.

Yes as soon as they promised it, it would be bad to go back from that but I was more about them saying no from the very beginning or at least saying that they will look into it and tell us more later. Then they could have used a bit of a time (but not years) to decide if they want to do that or not. But telling us that we will get it, take years to just but the exact same items onto the male bodies is just bad. (IMO) If this would have been something for women I am quite sure that it would not have taken that long.

To concur with what someone else said, the sex of the developers/designers is irrelevant. If something players want doesn't quite fit with the devs' overall plan for the game, they shouldn't feel obliged to include it. Especially if it's a bad Rocky Horror knock-off like this.

And yet somehow I have the feeling that they would have less problems with sexy clothes for women. So for me it just feels like they do find it uncomfortable because they are mostly male devs. Again my problem is more that if they feel so uncomfortable to do something like that for males then why do it? Instead of letting those that truly wanted the outfit wait for over two years.

[Tridus]

True, but they can still learn from this ordeal.

The lesson from this is probably something like "don't talk to the community because they're fickle, confused, and will hate it if you give them what they ask for."

[BillyKaplan]

The lesson from this is probably something like "don't talk to the community because they're fickle, confused, and will hate it if you give them what they ask for."

To be fair, that's not wrong.

[Nestama]

Yes as soon as they promised it, it would be bad to go back from that but I was more about them saying no from the very beginning or at least saying that they will look into it and tell us more later. Then they could have used a bit of a time (but not years) to decide if they want to do that or not. But telling us that we will get it, take years to just but the exact same items onto the male bodies is just bad. (IMO) If this would have been something for women I am quite sure that it would not have taken that long.

Well they released the Gold Saucer bunny outfit for females a second time (first time being on Gold Saucers release) while giving nothing to males, so... it definitely does look like they're fine with making sexy glamour for females, but not for males. Double standards, or something like that.

Next thing they can probably work on making unisex is the Thvanairian Bustier set. It's not exactly as "out there" as the bunny outfit, so it shouldn't make the designers uncomfortable (and this has been requested for in the past as well, I believe. I think someone made a thread and even posted concepts of how it would look). Of course, I'm sure after releasing this, players would prefer something masculine first.

[Theodric]

As I've said before, my biggest concern about making unisex gear available to everybody is it just...encourages the developers to make more and more gear with a feminine/androgynous vibe to it. Gear being gender locked isn't really a concern of mine so much as there being a disproportionate amount of focus on feminine glamour. They can unlock more female only sets but not only will that suck up more development time/resources it still doesn't do much towards giving male characters more cool/masculine looking options.

[Miksu]

I will wear the bunny outfit solely because there will be idiots triggered so hard by it that they will type something in-game. You know that's gonna happen, and I'm gonna cherish the hell out of those situations.

[craybest]

i like it that they used the same in the sense that they didn't make a skimpy version for females and then a fully dressed version for males. I'd have prefered a topless version though, but maybe in the future?

[Lauront]

To be fair, that's not wrong.

They'd be drawing the wrong lesson, then, precisely because there's different groups asking for different things. I think Theodric has articulated what many of us playing guy characters actually wanted. Growing indignant because we're not happy with what was offered, when it wasn't us who was asking for that, is folly. Like you said, it is important if they want to understand why they're losing revenue, should it come to that, or alternatively facing the risk of that. Appearance plays a big role in an MMO, especially since a good deal of it consists of a gear hamster wheel.

[alimdia]

There's a 38 pages thread in the JP forums with people requesting an option to remove others' custom glamour client side

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...363743/?page=1

Not explicitly fueled by the bunny suit but it was posted after the bunny suit was revealed.

So far the opposition is 3 times as big as those asking for it.