The RMT of selling content using cross server party finder

[Lorgana]

Yeah the thing is "selling" content for gil is completely legal in game. Unless you can prove that irl money is being exchanged there's nothing you can do

[Kerwin]

Yeah the thing is "selling" content for gil is completely legal in game. Unless you can prove that irl money is being exchanged there's nothing you can do

Exactly why I stated that in my first bullet point. If they are cross server, how does one sell for gil and in game goods from a different server?

[NephthysVasudan]

Yeah the thing is "selling" content for gil is completely legal in game. Unless you can prove that irl money is being exchanged there's nothing you can do

Except you have a fatal flaw in that reasoning.

Cross world...strict limit on gil transfers....and they demand communication outside of game..where its not logged..or tracked.

If it looks like a duck...quacks like a duck...its a duck. Proof or not....the smell is awfully rotten to the core.

Can it be proven? No..not emphatically.... but that doens't mean its right either.

[Vnolan]

The GMs however have to go by proof visible within SE's system.

They had just that with Feast chat and look what happened.

Can it be proven? No..not emphatically....

Yes it can. Contacting them or even googling the discord info in some cases gets you all the proof you need in seconds.

Don't use words such as 'looks like', 'probably' or similar terms and don't suggest something is going on, because you'll start the unending argument over whether it's actually RMT when that's already known to be the case.

[HyoMinPark]

Yes it can. Contacting them or even googling the discord info in some cases gets you all the proof you need in seconds.

Don't use words such as 'looks like', 'probably' or similar terms and don't suggest something is going on, because you'll start the unending argument over whether it's actually RMT when that's already known to be the case.

Again, though, until SE relaxes or changes its policy on accepting third-party chat logs or screenshots/video recordings, all that evidence through Google searching and Discord messaging is worthless. It’s only worth any solid proof if the RMTs say something in-game, which, sadly, they’re too smart to do. Hence why they ask for everything to be handled through Discord—because they know that, even if reported, SE won’t do anything to them because they won’t accept screenshots from third-party chat clients as evidence. Since they can be “altered”, is the excuse.

[NephthysVasudan]

They had just that with Feast chat and look what happened.


Yes it can. Contacting them or even googling the discord info in some cases gets you all the proof you need in seconds.

Don't use words such as 'looks like', 'probably' or similar terms and don't suggest something is going on, because you'll start the unending argument over whether it's actually RMT when that's already known to be the case.

I suggest you take a step back and check your facts.
The context here is SE's policies.

But since your so eager to make a point of arguing over something as obvious as that...go try for yourself....let us know how that works out for you with your chat with a GM.
Then just maybe you'll get the picture.

PS: For those who don't know - SE won't take any evidence outside the game..including screenshots...videos...live streaming..etc....stupid..I know..but its how it is.