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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    Just because botting isn’t an issue on the JP servers does not mean it’s not an issue elsewhere, or that it should be ignored.
    Haven't seen PVP bots, but I have seen Gathering & FATE bots on my JP server. So they do exist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiomara View Post
    Haven't seen PVP bots, but I have seen Gathering & FATE bots on my JP server. So they do exist.
    Have you tried reporting them and what was the result of that? I think it would be a helpful insight to learn how things are handled on JP servers and if questions are being raised regarding botters from JP server players for the upcoming live letter?
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    Quote Originally Posted by XenoCranel View Post
    if questions are being raised regarding botters from JP server players for the upcoming live letter?
    As far as I've seen from browsing the JP Q&A thread, the majority of the popular questions are just personal ones regarding the dev's work history and such, and nothing actually pertaining directly to XIV.

    There was one person asking about what the most common type of misdemeanor the STF has to deal with is, but not one person complaining about bots.

    I assume the issue is so minor on the JP servers that most people don't even notice/care.
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    Last edited by KageTokage; 04-08-2018 at 10:11 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    As far as I've seen from browsing the JP Q&A thread, the majority of the popular questions are just personal ones regarding the dev's work history and such, and nothing actually pertaining directly to XIV.

    There was one person asking about what the most common type of misdemeanor the STF has to deal with is, but not one person complaining about bots.

    I assume the issue is so minor on the JP servers that most people don't even notice/care.
    Yeah, I just checked their market. Prices are very low compared to most NA servers by like 80% for most end-game content items I saw at least.
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    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...EF%BC%89/page3

    Here's one from the Japanese Q&A. One of the questions from KOTATU_is_Devil is talking about botting issues (Thanks to google translate...if it was correct). We can push that question by giving it more likes (If anyone knows Japanese, maybe they can translate the question correctly).
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    I've noticed there's a different type of blight on the marketboards aside from straight crafting bots, and that's undercut bots who make it extremely difficult to sell anything when they're basically constantly cycling through their stock and undercutting by one gil whenever someone tries to sell lower then them.

    I can understand why a large amount of Cactaur's crafters seem to have backed out of the DoW/L gear market when these individuals are making it such a hassle to sell anything...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alucard135 View Post
    Here's one from the Japanese Q&A. One of the questions from KOTATU_is_Devil is talking about botting issues (Thanks to google translate...if it was correct). We can push that question by giving it more likes (If anyone knows Japanese, maybe they can translate the question correctly).
    Quote Originally Posted by KOTATU_is_Devil View Post
    BOT産アイテムがマケに与えている影響
    (シャードはBOT産が○割あるとか)
    If I am translating correctly, they are mentioning concerns about the effect/influence botting has on the Market Board. And then they make a mention about how a lot of the shards (on the MB) are gathered by bots.

    Little different from the situation on NA servers with crafters botting products, but it at least relates to gathering bots in a way. Only 7 likes as of this post, though.
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    Last edited by HyoMinPark; 04-11-2018 at 01:04 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    If I am translating correctly, they are mentioning concerns about the effect/influence botting has on the Market Board. And then they make a mention about how a lot of the shards (on the MB) are gathered by bots.

    Little different from the situation on NA servers with crafters botting products, but it at least relates to gathering bots in a way. Only 7 likes as of this post, though.
    Thanks for that! Good to know it was related to the topic. And yeah, the number shows how it isn't much of an issue on JP servers.
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    So far, no changes even after the announcement of bans. Seems like they changed the formatting(?)

    I will continue to report botters while waiting for the upcoming LL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    I've noticed there's a different type of blight on the marketboards aside from straight crafting bots, and that's undercut bots who make it extremely difficult to sell anything when they're basically constantly cycling through their stock and undercutting by one gil whenever someone tries to sell lower then them.

    I can understand why a large amount of Cactaur's crafters seem to have backed out of the DoW/L gear market when these individuals are making it such a hassle to sell anything...
    Tbf, and this will definitely not be a popular thing to say, I will admit to undercutting by 1 gil all the time. And given my personal situation, I tend to be on throughout the day and night, and can update fairly frequently (while I'm playing). I actually get annoyed by people undercutting by more, because it just drives the potential revenue down much faster.

    However, I understand that if someone doesn't have as much time as me, the idea of undercutting by 1k, 10k or 50k makes sense if it's an effort to stop someone from selling lower than they feel comfortable with.

    As for bots doing that... well, it certainly feels that way with the amount of time I spend checking the boards only to see that I'm being undercutted again. But my first thought is that someone else doesn't have a life just like me. =P
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    Last edited by drchesed; 04-13-2018 at 12:22 PM. Reason: added quote

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