Bunny outfits for men, not a cryptid!

[Emstidor]

Maybe you should stop thinking anyone who plays a female character is against male glamours. I'm all for equality.

You ask people to stop generalizing...but that's only after you yourself came into the thread and generalized all the male glamour people as universally being outraged for the bunny outfit and then universally angry when it came out?

Shockingly different groups of people have different priorities and interests, and it's absolutely not contradictory at all for some people who want equal glamours to push for the exact bunny outfit female characters got, and a separate group of people who also want separate but equal (as in feminine gear for women, and masculine gear for men) to express dissatisfaction at the result. Doesn't mean either of them are wrong.

[Vstarstruck]

They asked for a male bunny suit, they got it. the problem is that bunny suits aren't attractive to most people when men wear them. The solution most here seem to have is "just give us the ears," which is telling. I don't think people realized what they were asking for.

I still stand what I said in claiming it was lazy. This is why they need people to actually talk to us and comment back if they are confused? Why couldn't they just put the bunny ears wearable for all a long time ago and see where it went from there? Couldn't they design something more fitting for males?

Instead of doing something nice, this just feels forced in, pandering, because people asked for it, instead of trying to molding it into something good.

You ask people to stop generalizing...but that's only after you yourself came into the thread and generalized all the male glamour people as universally being outraged for the bunny outfit and then universally angry when it came out?

Shockingly different groups of people have different priorities and interests, and it's absolutely not contradictory at all for some people who want equal glamours to push for the exact bunny outfit female characters got, and a separate group of people who also want separate but equal (as in feminine gear for women, and masculine gear for men) to express dissatisfaction at the result. Doesn't mean either of them are wrong.

+1

And as for star, you are stalking me now, and find fault with anything I say, please stop.

Stop stalking me, I posted before you.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

You ask people to stop generalizing...but that's only after you yourself came into the thread and generalized all the male glamour people as universally being outraged for the bunny outfit and then universally angry when it came out?

Shockingly different groups of people have different priorities and interests, and it's absolutely not contradictory at all for some people who want equal glamours to push for the exact bunny outfit female characters got, and a separate group of people who also want separate but equal (as in feminine gear for women, and masculine gear for men) to express dissatisfaction at the result. Doesn't mean either of them are wrong.

But the thing is, the original posts and requests were for a male bunny outfit, not a Chippendale outfit. So that's what the devs saw. I am stating that people (makers of those threads, which probably got the most likes and are therefore what the devs thought was wanted) were outraged there was no male bunny suit, so they made one. Now people are reacting to that saying they expected something else, when, from the devs eyes, they delivered what people wanted. But I digress, I am simply going to be taken as someone who is against male characters getting things because I play a female.

[Vstarstruck]

But I digress, I am simply going to be taken as someone who is against male characters getting things because I play a female.

Stop assuming and putting words in people's mouths. How can you sit here tell people not to assume on your behalf, then do that very thing yourself?

[Stormfur]

Where did the image come from?

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Stop assuming and putting words in people's mouths. How can you sit here tell people not to assume on your behalf, then do that very thing yourself?

Except this isn't putting words in people's mouth, as it has actually happened already, in theodrics post, which you quoted.

[Deraj8]

Since I don't crossdress, I guess I'll just take the bunny ears and try to make a glam out of that. Kinda was expecting a male bunny outfit, not a female outfit on a male body. Bummer, but not the end of the world.

[Tridus]

Where did the image come from?

PAX East, apparently.

I still stand what I said in claiming it was lazy. This is why they need people to actually talk to us and comment back if they are confused? Why couldn't they just put the bunny ears wearable for all a long time ago and see where it went from there? Couldn't they design something more fitting for males?

Instead of doing something nice, this just feels forced in, pandering, because people asked for it, instead of trying to molding it into something good.

And if they'd made something distinct, people would complain they still can't get the bunny suit. There is no pleasing everybody.

[kikix12]

Shockingly different groups of people have different priorities and interests, and it's absolutely not contradictory at all for some people who want equal glamours to push for the exact bunny outfit female characters got, and a separate group of people who also want separate but equal (as in feminine gear for women, and masculine gear for men) to express dissatisfaction at the result. Doesn't mean either of them are wrong.

You are right...and therein lies the problem. Did anyone ever say that they want this or that bunny suit?! I will admit that I never really checked the threads. I myself dislike the idea of the bunny suit being available to PC's at all, male or female alike, since I just dislike the idea of "for the heck" glamours. But that's besides the point.

Did anyone say that they want a masculine variation? Did anyone say that they want it but only the feminine variant? I am almost certain that no one did either. Not one side, the one that is now happy, nor the other, which is cringing under these news. Yet these people that never actually said that they wanted are complaining that the developers made it in the other way. What...are developers now supposed to be able to read peoples minds? Heck, it's not like they could actually win either way anyway. And what's worse here?! That the people that WANT bunny outfits but DIFFERENT than what they got are exactly as ignorant of there being ones with different opinions as some players here that are being complained about due to what they said, like RiyahArp.

I do not defend anyone. Ultimately everyone have their own ideas of what looks good and what not and all that jazz. And there are as many "styles" as there are people, in any combination of points in life, age, situation, living area, gender, sexuality etc. However, almost everyone here is guilty of the exact same thing, but since they are "one side" in this argument (pro-bunny, even if against this variation) it is completely ignored by "protectors" that come here and try to explain why someone said something wrong.


On a different note...Please, people...Stop bringing Chippendales into this...The only "bunny" that they are related is the Playboy...through one of the founders having killed a Playboy playmate that was his estranged wife.
They have nothing in common with the bunny outfits. They have entirely different job than the hostesses that wear the bunny outfits. The ONLY thing in common is that their job is to appeal to sexual interests of whoever is paying, but that's as much in common as they have with porn actors or dildos...And I don't think people here would argue that they wanted a dildo-looking costume?! Right?!
Clearly the people asking whether Square Enix ever even heard of Chippendales should actually look them up themselves. The bunnies in the business are Playboy ones, but those are strictly female.

[Rabbtit]

i dont see a problem :? its not my thing, but a number of my friends have expressed interest in it. maybe you think its ugly, but some people think its good. youre not forced to buy, why be mad? :?

but ppl will always complain about things no matter where you go....;;