Tips for buying against Plot not yet available for purchase. 4.2 housing

[ElroyDrundan]

The whole system, pretty much sucks even when you get a house.

I did the whole camping thing, spamming thing, no luck. Lost to a couple relocation from folks, and just bad timing.

Finally I would just go by and check all houses that were available . One day one was.

I started looking for a better location. There was a small in Shirogane that came up on the beach. Probably had been up about 4-8hrs, some one was at the board waiting.

So I relocated, and then of course got heaps of abuse for ninja-ing there plot. I tried to explain to them they could have been waiting days for this plot as it just came up, also apologized and told them it did suck, but that is the nature of the beast. They also accused me of exploiting and I explained, no , this is just how the system works....

If I could do ever again I suppose I would have waited maybe until they gave up. Though this was beach front in Shirogane (small) so I'm sure someone else would have come by to snatch it up....

So what should have been a happy time is a sucky time.

[Vahlnir]

So I relocated, and then of course got heaps of abuse for ninja-ing there plot. I tried to explain to them they could have been waiting days for this plot as it just came up, also apologized and told them it did suck, but that is the nature of the beast. They also accused me of exploiting and I explained, no , this is just how the system works....

If I could do ever again I suppose I would have waited maybe until they gave up. Though this was beach front in Shirogane (small) so I'm sure someone else would have come by to snatch it up....

So what should have been a happy time is a sucky time.

You shouldn't feel bad. Housing is more of a PvP mode than PvP itself. They had to wait, you had the option not to. No shame in that.

Whenever I was able to move out of the Goblet a couple weeks ago, I began looking around for a new place either in Mist or Lavender Beds. After a couple days of watching plots one in Lavender Beds finally dropped low enough that I could relocate if I could farm out just a little more gil.

I visited the plot to make sure it was to my liking, more than once. Never saw a soul. When it came time for another price drop later that evening I returned to check the timer and such, and saw someone standing at the board. Well, I started to panic a little then and began vendoring a ton of things. Weapons, armor, furnishings...but not stuff I knew I'd miss. Even ran a couple roulettes. I was honestly surprised that they hadn't scooped it up after about 20 min or so, but they were there nonetheless. They were clearly waiting on the timer to lower the price. So...after debating with myself for a couple minutes I decided to walk up and relocate. I did consider letting them have it for a couple minutes though, I really did. The moment I walked up to the plot they d/ced in a strange twist of fate.

Felt like a bit of a jerk afterwards, but that's just how things roll with housing. I got over it fast. Don't hesitate or you'll simply regret it. If someone else is too slow, then...their loss, not yours. If people want to be mad, let them. They weren't able to take advantage of the situation. You were. They've only got themselves to blame. Or their internet connection.

[Drkdays]

You shouldn't feel bad. Housing is more of a PvP mode than PvP itself. They had to wait, you had the option not to. No shame in that.

Well said!

[Lolli282]

So I relocated, and then of course got heaps of abuse for ninja-ing there plot. I tried to explain to them they could have been waiting days for this plot as it just came up, also apologized and told them it did suck, but that is the nature of the beast. They also accused me of exploiting and I explained, no , this is just how the system works....

If I could do ever again I suppose I would have waited maybe until they gave up. Though this was beach front in Shirogane (small) so I'm sure someone else would have come by to snatch it up....

So what should have been a happy time is a sucky time.

I once relocated to the same plot (for neighbors) and two people were waiting. I made sure to tell them the plot, ward and area that I came from so they could go to it.

One went right away and the other followed me in the house. They obviously weren't too happy, in response I stayed neutral and friendly. Then they tried asking for gil to help them buy the other plot and I simply said the plot was the same price so they should be fine. I told them I was rooting for them and to let me know when they got a plot. I never saw them again.

I wouldn’t say never do it again but I think telling people where you came from is a nice way to save them even a little grief. You are right that someone else would have taken that prime plot.

[Thee_Freshness]

I once relocated to the same plot (for neighbors) and two people were waiting. I made sure to tell them the plot, ward and area that I came from so they could go to it.

One went right away and the other followed me in the house. They obviously weren't too happy, in response I stayed neutral and friendly. Then they tried asking for gil to help them buy the other plot and I simply said the plot was the same price so they should be fine. I told them I was rooting for them and to let me know when they got a plot. I never saw them again.

I wouldn’t say never do it again but I think telling people where you came from is a nice way to save them even a little grief. You are right that someone else would have taken that prime plot.

This literally happened to me a little while ago, and while their intentions were good, they honestly just made it worse. I'd been waiting next to what I felt was an absolutely top plot in the ward for 10 hours along with one other person. Someone appeared out of nowhere at the exact moment the plot became available for sale, bought it, said "sorry" and that was that. They later offered the location of their old plot in another city I wasn't interested in and had 30 people already camping it. Again, I get that the intention is good, but in my case, it wasn't much solace.

The problem isn't really the ninja; it's the system that rewards fortunate timing over time and effort. There are much better ways to do this that don't require people to spend so much time camping these plots which still prevent direct, black-market sales. There are cheap and easy ways to ease the housing shortage. This is an SE problem and until they address it, it's just going to be a source of frustration.

[EthanXdeath]

This literally happened to me a little while ago, and while their intentions were good, they honestly just made it worse. I'd been waiting next to what I felt was an absolutely top plot in the ward for 10 hours along with one other person. Someone appeared out of nowhere at the exact moment the plot became available for sale, bought it, said "sorry" and that was that. They later offered the location of their old plot in another city I wasn't interested in and had 30 people already camping it. Again, I get that the intention is good, but in my case, it wasn't much solace.

The problem isn't really the ninja; it's the system that rewards fortunate timing over time and effort. There are much better ways to do this that don't require people to spend so much time camping these plots which still prevent direct, black-market sales. There are cheap and easy ways to ease the housing shortage. This is an SE problem and until they address it, it's just going to be a source of frustration.

I think there are two things that need to happen first and foremost. 1. there should be separate FC and personal housing wards period, the amount of houses would double from this period. 2. Those with multiple "FC houses" should be demolished, no if and's or but's IDC if they were grandfathered in and gotten legit, this kinda stuff shouldn't be allowed to happen. Sure maybe there still aren't enough for personal plots at this point, but at least every FC that's legit will have a house, though likely there will be far more empty houses in the FC wards.