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  1. #15451
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    Karl0217's Avatar
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    Got Cutter's Cry on the roulette this morning as a Dark Knight. We had a Bard that demanded we do a speed run and kept pulling enemies even though I was the tank. Ended up dying first in the corridor leading to the first boss because he pulled the second group before I was ready for them.

    Got past the first boss but in the next area I go to pull the first mob and Bard tells the rest of the party to ignore the mobs and run for the portal, after I have started the pull, and they end up pulling a few more enemies in the process. I try to catch up with them but when I go to click portal the pop-up keeps getting canceled because of the mob auto-attacks and since it is eight against one I end up dying since the healer is in another part of the dungeon. End up back at the starting point with all the mobs between me and the rest of the party still alive.

    How do you deal with something like that?
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    Last edited by Karl0217; 04-08-2018 at 02:31 AM.

  2. #15452
    Player MoroMurasaki's Avatar
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    Moro Murasaki
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    Zalera
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Thoosa View Post
    I did a sigma 1 savage run on Astrologian in Nocturnal Sect and it was horrible. :P

    I just felt helpless at times, because I found the shields weren’t strong enough and had no emergency aoe heal like Scholar or White Mage, plus everything seemed to take ages to cast. I think the poor white mage on the group did most of the healing.

    The dome or earthly star is ok, but though when you have to be running around dodging mechanics a lot.

    At one point I got dragged into the carriage and it took agggggessss to kill the ghost.

    I then later went back on Scholar and found it much easier (fairy + the emergency aoe heal Scholar has)
    I haven't healed o5s on AST but I generally clear with a Noct AST and myself on WHM. The big thing she does is gets off shields prior to Acid Rain or Prey and preplaces Earthly Star so it has the 10 seconds to mature before healer and tank prey combos.

    She places Earthly Star in the top left corner, tank drops his prey in the top right then runs to the group stacked at the top left. Prey goes off, Earthly Star detonates and heals everyone up before the following Acid Rain.

    This way no one (apart from the healer with prey who tuns to the back) has to disengage and tanks don't have to swap or be healed through successive Connectivity pulses. You have to be on point as the healer up front with the group in healing the tank up between Doom Strike and Prey detonation but it's still easier and more dps-friendly than a tank running all the way to the back of the train.

    Good luck with the future!
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  3. #15453
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karl0217 View Post
    How do you deal with something like that?
    Either by telling the bard to stop being so whiny or by kicking him because he's the wrong here. Or leave if you can't deal with that BS.

    I had my share of toxic bards and first I start by warning them and if they continue, I try to kickvote. If that doesn't work I quit.
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  4. #15454
    Player
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    Oh, I told him to stop. In fact the bard suffered the same fate I did in the second lake area and got knocked out. So I say in the chat that maybe you shouldn't pull half the dungeon to the portal and then just go on through without killing them since it almost guarantees some of the party won't be able to follow immediately, wiping out whatever gains you had in time. The bard replies with something along the lines of "How about you just let me have the aggro". Then he proceeds to do the same thing again. After getting knocked out the second time I guess he finally realized that he wasn't getting his speed run and quit pulling enemies.

    For somebody wanting a speed run his antics probably ended up adding a good 10-15 minutes to the time it took to complete the dungeon.
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  5. #15455
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    Wait...he wanted to have the aggro of every mob he aggroed ? That's hilarious

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  6. #15456
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    Quote Originally Posted by AxHell View Post
    Wait...he wanted to have the aggro of every mob he aggroed ? That's hilarious
    Yeah, for a few seconds I actually thought about switching out low blow with shirk and giving him what he wanted. But since he quit pulling enemies about this time I didn't.
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  7. #15457
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    I normally don't speed run certain low level dungeons as tanks becuase in some of them the enemies hit really really hard for their level, like Brayflox.
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  8. #15458
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvina View Post
    I normally don't speed run certain low level dungeons as tanks becuase in some of them the enemies hit really really hard for their level, like Brayflox.
    Funny you should mention Brayflox. Twice this week I have ended up as a replacement tank for a party in progress that was still in the starting area of the Longstop. I asked the other party members what happened to the first tank and both times it was roughly the same thing. My predecessors tried to pull everything in that area before the bird boss and when that didn't work out too good they left.
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  9. #15459
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    Zhenif Amberry
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karl0217 View Post
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    Just tell them you want to do it properly, if they don't agree then vote kick, if that doesn't work then leave I noticed a comment and...
    I'd like to encourage you not to be this person, "I refuse to do my job because of xxx person"
    Tiny Rant of my own I guess (duty finder)
    I went into a Totorak on leveling roullete, the tank just ran through everything failing to pick up all adds while I were somehow keeping them alive (Lightspeed)
    my partner pulls Titan, some tank pet too you know try and help with that.
    the tank continues running dies...(yes after I died) and is like...

    "If you want to tank go ahead, I'm not going to tank" though I would have preferred to settle it peacefully I just kicked them and said nothing, not being in the mood to deal with it.

    Like please if you have a problem with an individual then make it personal 1 on 1 don't pull everybody else into your mood swings, I shouldn't have to suffer while you don't have a problem with me >_<
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    Last edited by Yenyen; 04-08-2018 at 06:42 PM.

  10. #15460
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    Quote Originally Posted by AxHell View Post
    snip.
    I would have gave that SMN a Commendation for not back chatting you (how it normally goes)
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    Last edited by Yenyen; 04-08-2018 at 06:49 PM.

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