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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    I have the Shiva statue. If they eventually put the emote on the Mogstation two years later, I couldn't care less. I bought the statue because I wanted it. And while the emote was a nice perk, I do not begrudge other people getting it.
    Seems you've missed my point.

    For a lot of people, the minion/emote/mount is the reason they end up buying a $150 statue, or a $40 stuffed animal, or a $30 livestream pass, or maybe that $200 collector's edition. So lets say SE starts selling the "exclusive items" that were previously only available through some overpriced item for $7 - $25 on the cash shop. You're going to have a lot of pissed off people who essentially greatly overpaid for an item, and that would probably come into play when deciding whether or not to purchase another promotional item.

    Exclusive items are a massive selling point, and a very common sales tactic. It's also why limited time offers work. People don't want to miss their chance at obtaining a new shiny item, and so they will often jump at purchasing a marked-up product. For the company to turn around later on and start selling that exclusive add-on is a bit underhanded.

    Now, if they openly state that their new policy is to release the exclusive items on the cash shop in a year's time, I personally would have no qualms about that. Those who want it now can spend the extra cash while the patient ones can wait for the cash shop release.

    tl;dr: I really don't give a rat's ass if people have the same items as me. I do however care about people being taken advantage of with higher prices by claiming something is exclusive, and then releasing it to the masses for far cheaper later on.
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  2. #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    Seems you've missed my point.

    For a lot of people, the minion/emote/mount is the reason they end up buying a $150 statue, or a $40 stuffed animal, or a $30 livestream pass, or maybe that $200 collector's edition. So lets say SE starts selling the "exclusive items" that were previously only available through some overpriced item for $7 - $25 on the cash shop. You're going to have a lot of pissed off people who essentially greatly overpaid for an item, and that would probably come into play when deciding whether or not to purchase another promotional item.

    Exclusive items are a massive selling point, and a very common sales tactic. It's also why limited time offers work. People don't want to miss their chance at obtaining a new shiny item, and so they will often jump at purchasing a marked-up product. For the company to turn around later on and start selling that exclusive add-on is a bit underhanded.

    Now, if they openly state that their new policy is to release the exclusive items on the cash shop in a year's time, I personally would have no qualms about that. Those who want it now can spend the extra cash while the patient ones can wait for the cash shop release.

    tl;dr: I really don't give a rat's ass if people have the same items as me. I do however care about people being taken advantage of with higher prices by claiming something is exclusive, and then releasing it to the masses for far cheaper later on.
    They are overpaying, that is my point, SE shouldn't be doing this tactics to begin with. It is psychology exploitation, I do not know why people fall for it with that mindset. It is supposed to be a free side bonus, not "exclusive" Plus is it a digital thing anyway, in the end it is not real. It does not hold the same weight as making a physical collector item.

    Bourne_Endeavor did have a proper reply to your post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post

    tl;dr: I really don't give a rat's ass if people have the same items as me. I do however care about people being taken advantage of with higher prices by claiming something is exclusive, and then releasing it to the masses for far cheaper later on.
    This why you tend to not be an early adopter especially in gaming where waiting 6 months gets you every thing that people over paid for, take Final Fantasy 15 Windows Edition people had pay for a season pass & more for original but those who waited/pc got all that for the base price. It's price you pay to be the first to be able to show it off for first 6 months - year."personally don't want legacy stuff, the tattoo is hot trash & mount well goob in beast tribe is barely different".

    If Square bring back the rewards from physical people will whinge for a few days & get over it.
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    I actually wouldn't mind if emotes and minions were sold separately in conjunction to them being a added on to physical items like statues. Like take the odin statue as an example. You can buy the statue and get the emote for free on top of it and they could sell it separately at say like 12 dollars. I really want the yotsuyu minion but i just can't see myself buying a book I would hardly use just to get it. ;/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    Seems you've missed my point.

    For a lot of people, the minion/emote/mount is the reason they end up buying a $150 statue, or a $40 stuffed animal, or a $30 livestream pass, or maybe that $200 collector's edition. So lets say SE starts selling the "exclusive items" that were previously only available through some overpriced item for $7 - $25 on the cash shop. You're going to have a lot of pissed off people who essentially greatly overpaid for an item, and that would probably come into play when deciding whether or not to purchase another promotional item.

    Exclusive items are a massive selling point, and a very common sales tactic. It's also why limited time offers work. People don't want to miss their chance at obtaining a new shiny item, and so they will often jump at purchasing a marked-up product. For the company to turn around later on and start selling that exclusive add-on is a bit underhanded.

    Now, if they openly state that their new policy is to release the exclusive items on the cash shop in a year's time, I personally would have no qualms about that. Those who want it now can spend the extra cash while the patient ones can wait for the cash shop release.

    tl;dr: I really don't give a rat's ass if people have the same items as me. I do however care about people being taken advantage of with higher prices by claiming something is exclusive, and then releasing it to the masses for far cheaper later on.
    How did I miss your post? I simply disagree.

    I also think you are placing far too big an emphasise on the amount of people who purchased a $150 statue just for the emote. In fact, if that were true regarding the plushies and OSTs, they would not have stopped tying exclusive minions to all their merchandise. Evidently, it didn't boost sales or why cave to customer complaints? More and more games have actually moved away from these tactics due to the sheer backlash. Overwatch outright acknowledged exclusive content only angered their fanbase. People more fall victim to wanting things first than caring whether it remains exclusive years later. We needs only look to the Moogle outfit. Very few people seemed bothered here or on reddit. Why? They had it for two years.

    Now will some care? Absolutely. The PvP forums is littered with back and forth fighting over this very subject. Will most? I, personally, doubt it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    We needs only look to the Moogle outfit. Very few people seemed bothered here or on reddit. Why? They had it for two years.
    I picked up the moogle costume from the JP fanfest stream, when you had to go jumping through all those hoops to register on the JP site. The cost of the stream was 1,500 yen, or $14. Mogstation now sells the costume for $12.

    This is why I personally am not up in arms over this. There was a minimal difference in pricing, which is my main concern with them starting to sell these bonus items.
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