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    Seeing Square Enix in a new light. I am grateful for this game.

    Ever since i have played this game back in 2013 i always had negative views always looking at the worst about the game and never bothered to think of what a truly amazing game it is. I have always shunned the dev team, yoshi, and overall the entire game. While i do still think it would be nice for things to be touched up here and there for a little more quality and stride for new hights. It is just recent that i have viewed this game in a new light. Let me give you all some context here. Not long ago Tera came to the ps4 and i wanted to try it out as a backup game in case i ever have issues keeping my subscription going for Final Fantasy 14. So i played the first and second beta. It was terrible even for a beta. It was basically unplayable for a large majority of players.

    A day after servers went online people still could not even log in. You could take 2 steps and freeze or crash, game stutters, or just plain get stuck with progression because of a quest bug. I thought oh well maybe they will get on top of it for official launch. Come official launch a lot of the serious game breaking issues still existed, and People were paying for this with the new founder packs and elite status sadly. I thought to myself "well this isn't right" and it wasn't. To further the pain Enmasse/Bluehole (the hosting company of the game) has terrible communication with their player base almost never notifying anyone what is going on or even if they acknowledge and work on any issues in particular. On top of that the game just did not seem right for me gameplay and mechanic wise either. There is kill stealing so you have to compete for everything in the game. The dungeons are screwed up you cant even start till everyone is there and uses a battle potion so if someone is afk or dc's your screwed and you have to leave.

    There's just so much wrong with it that i cant even put everything into one post, but other than this context i don't want to talk about another game too much in Final Fantasy's forums. So let me close with my final point. After this entire experience trying a free to play game as a backup. I have realized that i took Final Fantasy 14 for granted way too much. Always seeing the negative in it instead of appreciating what i really have/had. Final fantasy 14 is the smoothest and best running game i have ever played and now that i have tried other mmo's (even if Tera is still new to the console i hear the pc version has had serious issues unattended to for years) i finally realize the true greatness of Final Fantasy 14. The game play is breathtaking and for the amazing graphics and beautiful scenery it runs perfectly even on ps4 with no freezing or stuttering. The Square Enix team is truly amazing at optimizing and creating games, and i just wanted to thank them from the bottom of my heart for the fun times i have had because of their hard work on a game that i truly love. Thank you.
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    the sad part is the game (tera) is p2w when it comes to those potions because the best ones are in elite and the player base will fight you about it.... but just like you i've tryed to goto other games and cant because of all the issues you've listed off that you had with tera.
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    It's kinda true. I've played dozens of games in between my time on this game (been playing since ps3 launch back in 2013) and not a single one has given me the same kind of experiences I've got from this game. The closest I can think of is only a recent new game, Monster Hunter World. But even after 200 some odd hours it's gotten a bit stale to me. So, Kudos to SE. For all the ranting and raving that goes on around here it's definitely one of the most solid games on the market.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niraye View Post
    the sad part is the game (tera) is p2w when it comes to those potions because the best ones are in elite and the player base will fight you about it.... but just like you i've tryed to goto other games and cant because of all the issues you've listed off that you had with tera.
    I completely agree with you, and while the mog station fills with buyable glamours i doubt it will ever become pay to win and that is one of the good things about final fantasy. Pay to win just isn't right considering all it does is pander to the people with bigger pocket books who are willing to waste money. Even if i had all that extra money i would never want to waste it for pay to win kind of things.
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    I've been defending FFXIV until now. Lately not so much anymore. It's not even Eureka, I enjoyed it for the short time it lasted but FFXIV feels blant outside of Raiding nowdays. Just nothing that really excites one. :|
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    It's kinda true. I've played dozens of games in between my time on this game (been playing since ps3 launch back in 2013) and not a single one has given me the same kind of experiences I've got from this game. The closest I can think of is only a recent new game, Monster Hunter World. But even after 200 some odd hours it's gotten a bit stale to me. So, Kudos to SE. For all the ranting and raving that goes on around here it's definitely one of the most solid games on the market.
    I myself have ranted and raved before, while i do still hope for them to better things even further after my recent experiences with Tera i feel like i should not be as negative as i used to be. I really appreciate what i have because at the least its better than most others out there, and i know for a fact it is well worth the 14 dollars a month to be a part of Final Fantasy 14. It really is something special to be a part of.
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    I feel the same way, a bit of perspective helps. You can at least count on FF XIV having a certain quality standard and consistency in everything they do. If there was a better mmo we'd be playing that game. I'm here because the overall experience is better than anything else on the market imo and the team is very reliable to keep providing quality content for a very long time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rufalus View Post
    I feel the same way, a bit of perspective helps. You can at least count on FF XIV having a certain quality standard and consistency in everything they do. If there was a better mmo we'd be playing that game. I'm here because the overall experience is better than anything else on the market imo and the team is very reliable to keep providing quality content for a very long time.
    Yes i think that is exactly what it is about with Square. They have standards and don't stoop to dirty tactics and things that other mmo's do to make that extra dollar. It's those standards that make me feel like a premium among people who play other mmo's because i chose Square Enix.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rufalus View Post
    -snip-
    The quality can vary, imo. Sometimes they hit it out of the park, otherwise it's strike 1, 2 or 3. Overall I'm happy with the game myself, but it does have its issues. No game is truly perfect though. Playing multiple MMOs like I do sorta allows for a clearer picture. Some games simply do things better than others. Server limitations are holding this game back. If they could remedy that, a lot more could be done. In theory.

    But that said, there's nothing wrong with XIV possibly copying other MMOs more. MMOs copy each other all the time. As far as this game goes, I like the combat and dungeons/raids. It all feels pretty engaging. I also like housing, despite how flawed it is. There's a lot to like about the game, but when you see other games of lesser quality doing certain things better, it makes one wonder.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mizunoko View Post
    Yes i think that is exactly what it is about with Square. They have standards and don't stoop to dirty tactics and things that other mmo's do to make that extra dollar. It's those standards that make me feel like a premium among people who play other mmo's because i chose Square Enix.
    The cash shop is a bit of a dirty tactic. They make people PAY for more storage space, on top of the million and one things otherwise. SE is a business first and foremost, and to say that they don't go out of their way to make that extra dollar is nonsense. They do so every month to the point it makes me sick. I can't really blame them however, it's a smart move. Plenty of people willing to pay. I like the company and their games, but your view of them is a bit...off.
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    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    The quality can vary, imo. Sometimes they hit it out of the park, otherwise it's strike 1, 2 or 3. Overall I'm happy with the game myself, but it does have its issues. No game is truly perfect though. Playing multiple MMOs like I do sorta allows for a clearer picture. Some games simply do things better than others. Server limitations are holding this game back. If they could remedy that, a lot more could be done. In theory.

    But that said, there's nothing wrong with XIV possibly copying other MMOs more. MMOs copy each other all the time. As far as this game goes, I like the combat and dungeons/raids. It all feels pretty engaging. I also like housing, despite how flawed it is. There's a lot to like about the game, but when you see other games of lesser quality doing certain things better, it makes one wonder.



    The cash shop is a bit of a dirty tactic. They make people PAY for more storage space, on top of the million and one things otherwise. SE is a business first and foremost, and to say that they don't go out of their way to make that extra dollar is nonsense. They do so every month to the point it makes me sick. I can't really blame them however, it's a smart move. Plenty of people willing to pay. I like the company and their games, but your view of them is a bit...off.
    Everyone has differing opinions and i am okay with that. All i know is that after playing another mmo i started to miss Final Fantasy 14 and realized how much i really loved it.
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