O5S PF groups doing the solo-tank strategy

[Llus]

Just wait until pugs figure out you can also mitigate head on and keep everyone up front for that too....

[Neophyte]

Am I missing something? All I read here is not something I know as 'solo-tank' strat, it's just the proper strat.

Since week 1 it's done this way.
It mirrors the pattern of old A1s impact AoEs, one most far away on x-axis, one far away on the y-axis on opposite side cornerwise.

Probably another non-optimal savage strategy distributed by Mizzteq? Yes, it is.
Pretty much like the "swap after 2 stacks" desaster we had with O2s.. a swap after the actual tankbuster is waaaaay smoother. Mizzteq, stop teaching people stupid strats.

[Sunspawn]

I like how everyone is saying "if everyone is doing their job" or "if everything is done right"... How about you wake the f*** up and get out of that dreamland you live in where PF pugs do their jobs and do everything right. Most PF pugs can't find their arse in the dark without a map, a flashlight and written instructions. Expecting them to pull off a riskier strat without getting 2/3 of the party dead because the alternative is "non-optimal" is dumb. Optimization should come after competence and success, not have success be dependent on optimization.

inb4 "fflogs says you are shit" - I am shit. I know it. I have no illusion about my competence, which is middling at best.

[bounddreamer]

It's not a solo tank strat at all. I shirk my co tank, he picks up the boss and Hallowed or heavy cooldowns through the tankbuster, I drop the marker and put Shake it Off shields on the party, healer takes care of acid rain afterward and everything is A-okay.

[NotADps]

I like how everyone is saying "if everyone is doing their job" or "if everything is done right"... How about you wake the f*** up and get out of that dreamland you live in where PF pugs do their jobs and do everything right. Most PF pugs can't find their arse in the dark without a map, a flashlight and written instructions. Expecting them to pull off a riskier strat without getting 2/3 of the party dead because the alternative is "non-optimal" is dumb.

the strat is literaly having a shield healer use an aoe shield, the party to stay on a corner and the main tank on the other corner. its not that advanced, there are many others actual mechanics in the fight and are harder to do than this strat. if ppl can mess this up they will probably die to head on, go into the wrong ghost or even jump off the train lol

[whiskeybravo]

Mizzteq, stop teaching people stupid strats.

Eh, stacking upfront is an optimization strat - just like doing the ghost cheese. Last I checked Mizzteq doesn't cater to the speedrunning community so her guides are going to be made for her target audience. Besides that, her guides are usually more thorough than her competitors anyways.

[Sunspawn]

Eh, stacking upfront is an optimization strat - just like doing the ghost cheese. Last I checked Mizzteq doesn't cater to the speedrunning community so her guides are going to be made for her target audience. Besides that, her guides are usually more thorough than her competitors anyways.

Most importantly, her guides are safe. The solutions she gives to mechs might not give you the biggest uptime and epeen dps numbers, but they will increase your chances of clearing.

the strat is literaly having a shield healer use an aoe shield, the party to stay on a corner and the main tank on the other corner. its not that advanced, there are many others actual mechanics in the fight and are harder to do than this strat. if ppl can mess this up they will probably die to head on, go into the wrong ghost or even jump off the train lol

One or two people dying on head on is not as bad as 5/8 of the group dying because of a healer mistake or because they were 2mm closer to the boss than was safe. It is a matter of risk and reward - the risk of placing the tank prey close to the party, in a pug that did not clear yet, is greater than the reward of a small uptime increase for the tank.

[Dualgunner]

Ideally you don't just watch mtq and call it good. If you're raid leading you want to be researched on a few different strats from a few different people so you can best direct the group to do what will work for them. Safe strats, for example, don't always work for people and uptime is actually easier (and thus, safer) than safe strat.

Food for thought. As Uncle Iroh said, power and wisdom drawn from only one source is frigid and frail.

[Neophyte]

Eh, stacking upfront is an optimization strat - just like doing the ghost cheese. Last I checked Mizzteq doesn't cater to the speedrunning community so her guides are going to be made for her target audience. Besides that, her guides are usually more thorough than her competitors anyways.

Every PF group, despite having 2 tanks and the ability to tank swap, wants to place one tank marker in the closest corner a

It seems it's more like the common strat, which everyone does.

[Sunspawn]

Ideally you don't just watch mtq and call it good. If you're raid leading you want to be researched on a few different strats from a few different people so you can best direct the group to do what will work for them. Safe strats, for example, don't always work for people and uptime is actually easier (and thus, safer) than safe strat.

Food for thought. As Uncle Iroh said, power and wisdom drawn from only one source is frigid and frail.

If you are raid leading, or even in a steady static, yes. We're talking about PF pugs though. And in my opinion, a foolproof, safe and assured clear is far better than a faster one that might fizz and change into a wipe from a single mistake during an important mechanic.