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  1. #21
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    Vstarstruck's Avatar
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    Beastmistress Milk
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    Balmung
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    It would gives then initiate to do some re-search about their job at least.
    It is better than not doing anything, i think
    if it is done right sure, but if say SE copies ffxi maat and put it in ffxiv it would be outright useless because maat really did not teach those how to play better. It was more about gimmicky work arounds more then knowing how to really play your job.

    if done wrong, all you are doing is making people unsub.
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  2. #22
    Player RiyahArp's Avatar
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    Riyah Arpeggio
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    Exodus
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    Mostly it was reading a walkthrough, doing a lot of farming for proper gear, medicines, and potions, and then trying to do the single strategy for your job that would beat him while hoping you had leveled one of the easier jobs to take him as, as well as RNG was on your side. It wasn't a fun experience, and I don't think many people did it more than once. I don't think it would work here. Though it would be utterly hilarious if we got him as a hero in sigmascape, especially savage.
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  3. #23
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    AkashiXI's Avatar
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    Akashi Mousai
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    Adamantoise
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    Archer Lv 100
    The lead up to fighting Maat was the most difficult. Farming your testimony, having the needed items (it’s been so long, but you needed some sleeping potions and an item that allowed you to build tp while asleep). Having an Icarus Wing, having potions, etc... all to Zerg him down in less than thirty seconds. Yes, some jobs were more strategic than others (having poison potions so he couldn’t sleep you is an example), but otherwise it was a one strategy to win fight. However, I would like to have him in the game, for nostalgic sake :’^)
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  4. #24
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    Tanathya's Avatar
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    Selena Schwarz
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    Ragnarok
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    NO. Oh goddess no... I still have nightmares of the level 70 WAR fight. Keep him in Ru'lude Gardens where he belongs.

    Also his fights did nothing to help you 'understand' your Job, they always required some stupid gimmick to pass (not helped that he was fundamentally a MNK who just subbed whatever Job you were challenging him as, so MNK was in fact the most difficult to face him as - especially when he used Hundred Fists and pummeled you into submission).
    Most difficult fight was considered to be RDM. Hundred Fists worked great against him on MNK to be fair, with Counterstance up.

    I'd love to see him back if only to destroy those "it's only a leveling dungeon" people.

    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    There is a reason why his cap was nicknamed 'the No-Life Hat'.
    It was called the "no-life hat" because you had to have every job pre-WOTG at lv66+, so you could challenge him, not because of the fight itself.
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    Last edited by Tanathya; 04-04-2018 at 08:34 AM.

  5. #25
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    Skivvy's Avatar
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    Boo Box
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    Rafflesia
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    Sage Lv 100
    Maat would make these forums cry like wee babes.


    Would be entertaining at least.
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    Last edited by Skivvy; 04-04-2018 at 07:55 AM.

  6. #26
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    LordNickage's Avatar
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    Lord Nick
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    Hyperion
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    Gladiator Lv 62
    I don't miss farming testimonies and relying on gear and RNG to hope to God that my Sleep would land so that I wouldn't die in 2-3 hits.
    Cleared it on RDM years ago and while it was exhilarating and a huge sense of accomplishment, I wouldn't have time to tackle it again at this stage of life.
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  7. #27
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    Narangerel's Avatar
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    Naraan Tsahar
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    Mateus
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    It would gives them initiate to do some re-search about their job at least.
    It is better than not doing anything, i think
    It won't. People who do not want to get better will not get better. In fact, I would predict the end result would them removing it as a requirement for experts halfway through the expansion or removing full on next expansion at the latest. Roadblocking is just bad all around. If you want to bring it in as a cool challenge for a neat reward, by all means, but do not use it as a wall.
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  8. #28
    Player Vhailor's Avatar
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    Deionarra Eidolon
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    Hyperion
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post


    Anyone played FF11 still remember their first lvl 70 challenge?
    I starts to think he may be a good feature to help new players to fully understand their first FF14 job.
    Yes. Oh my goodness yes.

    I'd also love to see roadblocks before new dungeons or the like that require players be exposed to basic mechanics prior to new content. In fact, make them repeatable on-demand. It's really frustrating sometimes to struggle with a dungeon / raid mechanic, and not be able to practice without subjecting other people to your learning curve.
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  9. #29
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    Pastahnak Popotonak
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    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 80
    From someone who doesn't know who maat is, why not bring him in to be the npc in charge of the next teir of the hall of novice. Have him teach more of the complex mechanics players would see in hard/expert/raids/savage.
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  10. #30
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    Nestama's Avatar
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Lamia
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lilseph View Post
    Let's not forget that it's because of these rants that they nerfed Steps of Faith (And Pharos Sirius, but there was more to it).
    To be fair, if SE weren't going to add a "Vote Restart" feature to Steps of Faith, a nerf was the next 'best' thing they could do (missing one or two dragon killers and having low DPS pretty much required you to sit and wait for the dragon to reach the end). I'm still salty about Pharos Sirius 2.1, though. That dungeon was fine the way it was
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