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  1. #141
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    Although it takes a long while, and may take HQ mats to get a decent ending percentage chance, the old Rath’s Rotation is still a fairly solid, if very long, option. Although it is possible to make a Specialist variant (mainly by using the double Byregot’s at the end, for a ton of CP) its still quite feasible to use it in the older, non-Specialist versions.
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  2. #142
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    Might be worth noting, but I've found for the 3 star Macro 35 Durability Rotation by Visuvius Fire you have in your guide, if you take the early Great Strides out you can save a lot of CP without a huge quality loss.

    If you then replace Ingen1 in the quality phase with Ingen2, replace Tempura HQ with Seafood Stew HQ and take Commanding Tea instead of Cunning, you can manage the synth with 461 base CP and actually get better quality than the original. Handy for budget crafters like me who were stingy on maxing CP.

    https://i.imgur.com/DJ8K2um.jpg

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhotsald View Post
    Heya, folks. I was curious is anyone has found a solid, non-specialist rotation for making the 2-star Ala Mhigan gear and materials now that the specialist restriction has been lifted? I'm sitting at Craftsmanship: 1514, Control: 1445, CP: 474 without food or tea, but I'm having trouble finding anything reliable. Anyone have any success with them since the new patch dropped?
    Your best bet is probably a standard Makers Mark rotation. (https://i.imgur.com/xDwIrsY.png)
    Sub the specialist finisher for SH2 -> Ingen2 -> Inno -> Touch -> Strides -> Brygots. Should be overkill with your stats. Makers Mark is a bit long winded but it'll save you switching stones around as much.

    For the easier 2 star materials I'm quite fond of Evian's
    http://i.imgur.com/fRiikhx.png
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    Last edited by Liam_Harper; 02-20-2018 at 02:17 AM.

  3. #143
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    Might be worth noting, but I've found for the 3 star Macro 35 Durability Rotation by Visuvius Fire you have in your guide, if you take the early Great Strides out you can save a lot of CP without a huge quality loss.

    If you then replace Ingen1 in the quality phase with Ingen2, replace Tempura HQ with Seafood Stew HQ and take Commanding Tea instead of Cunning, you can manage the synth with 461 base CP and actually get better quality than the original. Handy for budget crafters like me who were stingy on maxing CP.
    Confirmed! Thanks for the input! I will updated this into my guide soon.

    Tested results here:
    The original Visuvius need 535 CP. I can squeeze out 18161 quality at 1458 control.
    Your version needs only 511 CP. I can squeeze out 17425 quality at 1458 control.
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    Last edited by Caimie_Tsukino; 02-20-2018 at 03:18 PM.

  4. #144
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhotsald View Post
    Heya, folks. I was curious is anyone has found a solid, non-specialist rotation for making the 2-star Ala Mhigan gear and materials now that the specialist restriction has been lifted? I'm sitting at Craftsmanship: 1514, Control: 1445, CP: 474 without food or tea, but I'm having trouble finding anything reliable. Anyone have any success with them since the new patch dropped?
    I would take Liam_Harper's suggestion, and just modify the MaMa rotation (in Chapter 60)'s finisher with a Blessing instead of the double Byregot. With your high stats, you should have absolutely no problem with it. The MaMa rotation is a very reliable rotation, and I haven't NQ-ed anything using it yet.
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    “The best crafter is not the one with the best stats, but the one who makes the best use of one’s stats” – By Caimie Tsukino

  5. #145
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    I was looking at your modified Taylor's rotation and found an abnormality.

    ... Here you are allowed to stop and check the condition on the Ingen2 step....
    But there in no Ingen2 in it, just Ingenuity. And it breaks at innovation, not ingenuity.
    ???
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  6. #146
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadygrove View Post
    I was looking at your modified Taylor's rotation and found an abnormality.


    But there in no Ingen2 in it, just Ingenuity. And it breaks at innovation, not ingenuity.
    ???
    Yea, that's a typo. Thanks for catching it!
    Fixed now: "Here you are allowed to stop and check the condition before the Ingen step..."
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    “The best crafter is not the one with the best stats, but the one who makes the best use of one’s stats” – By Caimie Tsukino

  7. #147
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    I love the guide, I’ve used it like crazy, but one part is nagging at me. The miracle/blessing combo relies on RNG for the blessing right?

    It seems that the steady hand wears off right before it. I get it if people are macroing and the 90% chance for an extra 3k quality is worth the risk. Am I missing something?

    Okay......self-edit upon double checking before I post. I totally misread the combo and it’s miracle/brow, not miracle/blessing. Hence the 100% fidelity and I’ve been needlessly scratching my head for three days and created the account just so I could pose this question. Yay me. I will post anyways for other people’s entertainment.
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  8. #148
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theo_Felinus View Post
    I love the guide, I’ve used it like crazy, but one part is nagging at me. The miracle/blessing combo relies on RNG for the blessing right?

    It seems that the steady hand wears off right before it. I get it if people are macroing and the 90% chance for an extra 3k quality is worth the risk. Am I missing something?
    The Miracle+Brow combo was written for Specialists. If you're not a specialist, you won't even have Miracle available in the first place. And if you are a specialist, then Brow is 100% fidelity instead of 70%.

    The rotation was written when these recipes were "specialist recipes". At the moment, since they are no longer specialist-only recipes, we can just use the regular blessing approach if you're doing it with a non-specialist, since you won't have the miracle available at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Theo_Felinus View Post
    Okay......self-edit upon double checking before I post. I totally misread the combo and it’s miracle/brow, not miracle/blessing. Hence the 100% fidelity and I’ve been needlessly scratching my head for three days and created the account just so I could pose this question. Yay me. I will post anyways for other people’s entertainment.
    There you go! You got it!
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    “The best crafter is not the one with the best stats, but the one who makes the best use of one’s stats” – By Caimie Tsukino

  9. #149
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    Holy crap, tried it out last night. Got 19k quality off the combo. Definitely overkill with my stats but it was fun just to do it. Will come in handy in the future I’m sure, although I will still probably needlessly do it all the time now so I can watch the big numbers.
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    On page 150 there is an error in the table. Starting at Inner Quite stack 8 Miracle is 10% too high.
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