FF14 Advanced Crafting Guide (Part 4 Stormblood) by Caimie Tsukino

[RayneLittlewinkle]

Hello Camie and others I hope you don't mind me popping in to ask for some help I have just finished melding my gear. Went from 6mil to 2mil ( brought some housing items in between) but yeah it was a lot of blood sweat and tears LOL my stats is looking around Craftmanship: 1524 Control:1436 and CP 470. Without food or medicine.

I've realized that I'm having a very hard time crafting the level 35 items. Do you know of any good macros based upon my stats I could use for that? If it means I'd have to switch out specialists every other day I'll do that as well! I've been trying non spec macros though ( I'm not good crafting manually unless it's following a layout) but perhaps that's where I'm going wrong?

[Caimie_Tsukino]

Hello Camie and others I hope you don't mind me popping in to ask for some help I have just finished melding my gear. Went from 6mil to 2mil ( brought some housing items in between) but yeah it was a lot of blood sweat and tears LOL my stats is looking around Craftmanship: 1524 Control:1436 and CP 470. Without food or medicine.

I've realized that I'm having a very hard time crafting the level 35 items. Do you know of any good macros based upon my stats I could use for that? If it means I'd have to switch out specialists every other day I'll do that as well! I've been trying non spec macros though ( I'm not good crafting manually unless it's following a layout) but perhaps that's where I'm going wrong?

I have recently added a new chapter in my crafting guide:
Ch68: Master Recipe Books VI and 3 Star Recipes in Stormblood

In that chapter, I have listed two macros - one for specialists (from VisuviusFire), one for non-specialists (from S'yahn Tias).
I tested your stats on the specialist macro using the simulator, and here's the result:


As you can see, it works really well... just shy of 2474 quality. So if you use 1 HQ mat, it'll be pretty close to 100%. Alternatively, even if you use pure NQ mats, 84% HQ rate isn't bad either. After all, you don't need all HQ mats to craft 3 star 70 durab final products. So you can totally afford to gamble at 80-ish % HQ rate without any problem. (oh, this is a rotation that uses specialist skills, so it assumes you have the soul stone, but I didn't add the extra 20 craft and 20 control to the stats before I ran this result.)

Btw, if you can add just 1 more CP to your gear, you can use an NQ cunning tea instead of HQ. Because you just need 535 CP for the above rotation.

I have not tried testing your stats on non-specialists rotation yet. But you can do it yourself easily. A wild guess from me would be that you may need 1 HQ mat to bring the final HQ rate from 30-ish to 70-ish % (<-- pure speculation).

[RayneLittlewinkle]

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Thank you so much for taking your time in doing this I will give it a shot and see how it turns out! I will see if i can squeeze out one more CP and yeah, I think im going to have to go the specialist route the non spec routes for some reason seem to need more CP than what is stated and i end up not having anything left for Byregots Blessing. Boy this expansion is really CP heavy! Thank you again!

[HaoA]

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Thanks for the input raela. I've finally melded 1512/1352/471 and I can get away without specialist. I use tempura HQ and cp tea HQ for 35 DUR and just tempura HQ for 70 DUR. I always try to gather my own mats so I found it's not hard to nearly get all HQ mats so crafting 4.2 recipes to HQ is not that hard for me now.

[HaoA]

I have recently added a new chapter in my crafting guide:
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Nice update to your guide Caimie! . Probably add a chapter for HQ formulation for those who likes to crunch numbers like me XD.

[HaoA]

It's not about the gear itself but the penta-melding. I already spent a lot of gil on melding my crafter set and you can't hit the new perception without a lot of melding into the gathering set as well which is why I was wondering how much of the components we can get away with being NQ for 2.5** and 3*** crafts since it's a lot easier to just hit the base NQ for the new nodes as opposed to penta-melding to hit the perception number.

If you know your HQ progress with your current gears/melds and skill rotations using the crafting optimizer, you can calculate how many HQ mats you need to reach 100% HQ rate in your crafting progress (I posted the formula a few posts back). It's safe to say you need to reach 50% HQ progress minimum and use all HQ mats if you want to reach 100% HQ rate. Some recipes cannot reach 100% HQ rate if your HQ progress is 50% because some mats don't have HQ like Gyr Abanian Alchemic or those demimaterias.

As for gathering, the high 1350 perception is just that you can have better chance of getting the 42% proc, still it's not every node when you gather. So I guess the only way around for you is to use your gathering skills to increase the chance. You still need the minimum 1220 gathering stat for the 85% gather on 4.2 nodes. What I do here is use sharp vision II/field mastery II for the 15% increase gather, unearth III/leaf turn III for 30%-100% HQ chance then bountiful yield II/bountiful harvest II as many times as your GP allows. Also If you get the +1 gather attempt, then you can use deep vigor/brunt force to make your last gather 100% HQ (Save 100 GP till the end for bountiful yield II/bountiful harvest II for this last gather).

This usually gives me at least 30% HQ chance or higher if your perception is high and sometimes lucky a proc of roughly 12% from node. I usually do this when I didn't get the 42% HQ proc with my 1350 perception.

[Caimie_Tsukino]

Nice update to your guide Caimie! . Probably add a chapter for HQ formulation for those who likes to crunch numbers like me XD.

Thanks. The HQ mat initial quality calculation thingy is more of a basic crafting concept/mechanics... and would fit better in my original crafting guide for ARR. I'll try to fit it in there later.

Thank you so much for taking your time in doing this I will give it a shot and see how it turns out! I will see if i can squeeze out one more CP and yeah, I think im going to have to go the specialist route the non spec routes for some reason seem to need more CP than what is stated and i end up not having anything left for Byregots Blessing. Boy this expansion is really CP heavy! Thank you again!

You're welcome. Well, your spec has 20 extra craft, 20 extra control and access to some super skills like Reflect, right? Non-spec is supposedly weaker, so it makes perfect sense for non-spec to accomplish the same (or even less) by making use of more CP.

[GarretStrongstaf]

Hey Caimie! Thanks so much for your meticulous and equally passionate treatise on one of my favorite parts of one of my favorite games. Your manual helped me get in the doorway of the crafting system, made me lots of gil and has made getting it so much fun!

Anyways, I was looking at your OP melds from 4.1 and tbh, they are a little pricy for me atm. I just resubbed after a years hiatus and just bought a mansion (which I love as much as crafting). It was a real "Sophies Choice" but in the end the Large in Mist won. So I am on a budget until I can get into the swing of the changes in SB crafting. In the meantime What stats/(melds) would you recommend for someone who can only reasonably afford Vs IVs and IIIs in terms of materia but wants to get his foot in the door of the real money makers...and more difficult recipes.

Thanks in advance for your time and energy!

Garret

[Caimie_Tsukino]

Hey Caimie! Thanks so much for your meticulous and equally passionate treatise on one of my favorite parts of one of my favorite games. Your manual helped me get in the doorway of the crafting system, made me lots of gil and has made getting it so much fun!

Anyways, I was looking at your OP melds from 4.1 and tbh, they are a little pricy for me atm. I just resubbed after a years hiatus and just bought a mansion (which I love as much as crafting). It was a real "Sophies Choice" but in the end the Large in Mist won. So I am on a budget until I can get into the swing of the changes in SB crafting. In the meantime What stats/(melds) would you recommend for someone who can only reasonably afford Vs IVs and IIIs in terms of materia but wants to get his foot in the door of the real money makers...and more difficult recipes.

Thanks in advance for your time and energy!

Garret

Hi Garret! Thanks for your kind support!

The first "margin" that you need to reach is the 1330 craft / 1220 control / near-max CP stats which allows you to deal with 1 star, 2 star and special 2 star crafting. You should be able to reach this amount of stats by melding Vs and IVs on i290 gear. However, since the endgame BiS gear currently is i320/i325, it is probably best to acquire these gear first before you do any heavy melds. Since you're unlikely to have the stats to craft these i320/i325 items, I suggest you find someone to do it for you. Then you can lightly meld them with Vs and IVs at the moment. DO NOT go crazy overmelds yet. It is better to wait until you have some VIs in hand, and get them into the slots of i320 before you start going heavy overmelds with Vs and IVs. You should be able to reach the minimum stats for 1 star, 2 star and special 2 stars without any problem using Vs and IVs. Keep in mind that IVs can be retrieved any time and Vs can be retrieved at 80% success rate. So you can do "temporarily melds" nowadays, which is a luxury that we didn't have 2 patches ago.

To acquire the mats needed for i320, you will need yellow scrips. And yellow scrip grind is expensive. Thus, you should rely mostly on weekly Custom Delivery to obtain your yellow scrips (because it's the cheapest way!). Use these scrips to buy Gyr Abanian Alchemic, which are useful for making i325 tools and i320 gear. Once you have collected all the mats, send them out to a friend who can help you with the i320/i325. In the meanwhile, you should be able to craft yourself the HQ i290 gear, and you can freely do any in-slot melds with IVs. After any of these gear are spiritbonded to max, retrieve the materia which you melded, and then converting them into materia. You will have a small chance of getting VIs.

i290 accessories/belt and i290 offhands are currently still BiS, but all of us are anticipating new accessories/belt and offhands to be coming soon in the next patch, so I won't do any crazy melds on them. Try to do something that is affordable and retrievable.

[Rhotsald]

Heya, folks. I was curious is anyone has found a solid, non-specialist rotation for making the 2-star Ala Mhigan gear and materials now that the specialist restriction has been lifted? I'm sitting at Craftsmanship: 1514, Control: 1445, CP: 474 without food or tea, but I'm having trouble finding anything reliable. Anyone have any success with them since the new patch dropped?