Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[MoroMurasaki]

I'm noticing if I tend to queue into content alone, it's not fun.

I very much understand this sentiment. I actually made a thread about how I felt having a competent group of friends with whom I do most content is kind of ruining pugs for me.

Healers in particular this tier have been kinda poop in Sigma normal. Not even caring about dps - there have been so many times I've died to unavoidable damage in o7 and o5 specifically that I just won't run them solo anymore as a dps. Either I heal or a friend does.

You're on Aether, if you ever need an expert roulette buddy or someone to do your sigma normal clears with feel free to add me on discord. moromurasaki#5719

[KerriganV]

Have you ever seen "It doesn't matter it's not savage" where the person saying it dies imminently after that leads to a wipe a few seconds after that? I wish I could been there, same RDM in question saw such a thing on O5N (that is the train one right?) was going nuts about how they where almost dying laughing at the irony.

I...probably wouldn't be able to heal from laughing so hard from the irony tbh XD
Clearly it did matter or wiping in non-savage content wouldn't be a thing.
@_@

[Ursa_Vonfiebryd]

Also ya this. My patience, as can probably be told, isn't existing anymore. So when an AST does that I go the extra mile and desummon the fairy.

I mean, doesn't matter it's not savage, right?

Really? Sometimes I'm not paying attention right off or the tank just runs and pulls and I don't have time to switch or adjust to the other healer. Sch pretty much only has the two heals with shields (just like AST). The rest are all standard. I know its more of a courtesy but as long as people are getting healed then does it really matter? Especially when the other healer almost always does straight DPS if they see the other person Main Healing. I understand it's annoying but I don't know. I'm just used to going with the flow I guess.

[Okamimaru]

Sunken temple of Qarn (nm): me as DRK, my BRD gf, a random RDM (sprout) and a random WHM (also a sprout but in level 60 gear)... RDM didn't understand any of the mechanics, didn't dodge anything and would early pull bosses... WHM couldn't keep up healing me and the RDM and couldn't seem to res anyone... when I suggested using swiftcast to raise the RDM, The WHM had never heard of it... at 60+ they never knew swiftcast existed... after one more wipe to the 2nd boss (4th wipe there after 3 wipes to first) the RDM and WHM both bail... we get a new dps and healer and not one problem the rest of the run.... I'm assuming they used jump potions or something... so clueless...

[tinythinker]

Re: AST sects; I try to recall which is which but I avoid AST anyway. It can be a mistake not just laziness or disregard.

Re: No patience; I get frustration, but I'd rather eat a penalty than punish a group because of one person.

Re: My own recent experiences; I decided to try something other than healer since playing the role can be fun but also send me on long breaks from the game. Previously I leveled all fighting classes to at least 15, and I was having fun with Windwalker Monk in WoW, so I tried Pugilist beyond lvl 15. It's been fun, even though I'm actually finally trying to learn to use my gaming mouse.

But whoa, it's been an eye opener to see the disparity in healing. I feel bad for sprout healers, especially if they are new to the game. I mean, you got that water ball spell, you must be expected to use Fluid Aura, right? I felt particularly bad for a sprout in one of the lowest level dungeons who 1) didn't heal the tank, 2) didn't rez the tank, 3) started pulling stuff as the tank lay dead, 4) knocked things away with FA after the tank pulled them, (repeat). I wish I could have typed faster...

And lol @ new tanks who spin bosses like a top. Not even mad, just laughing as I try to time it so I can still hit positionals.

[KisaiTenshi]

Really? Sometimes I'm not paying attention right off or the tank just runs and pulls and I don't have time to switch or adjust to the other healer. Sch pretty much only has the two heals with shields (just like AST).

It should work like this:
WHM/WHM - Regen/Medica II can stack
WHM/SCH - Regen/Galvanize stack
WHM/AST - AST should pick Nocturnal to take advantage of stacking

SCH/SCH - Galvanize does not stack, ideally pick different faeries, but it doesn't nerf your toolkit if you have the same one in quite the same way as AST does.
SCH/AST - AST should always pick Diurnal. AST and SCH will overwrite each other's shields.

AST/AST - One picks Dirunal, the other picks Nocturnal. Any other option results in overwriting the other AST's effect instead of stacking it.

Overwriting the shields just makes them less effective because their potency relies on how much damage is healed by the underlying Adloquium/Aspected Benefic, so AST's Aspected Benefic creates a weaker shield than Adloqium, but Helios/Succor produce the same weaker shields. So overwriting Adloqium with Aspected Benefic, or spamming Helios/Succor erases the previous stronger shield. Hence avoid that situation entirely when possible. If you see Galvanize is up, and aren't using it strategically, don't overwrite it.

Scholar's Adloquium

Restores target's HP.
Cure Potency: 300
Additional Effect: Erects a magicked barrier which nullifies damage equaling the amount of HP restored. When critical HP is restored, damage nullification is doubled.
Duration: 30s
Effect cannot be stacked with Nocturnal Sect.

Versus AST's Aspected Benefic

Restores target's HP.
Cure Potency: 200
Diurnal Sect Effect: Regen
Cure Potency: 140
Duration: 18s
Effect cannot be stacked.

Nocturnal Sect Effect: Erects a magicked barrier which nullifies damage equaling 250% the amount of HP restored
Duration: 30s
Effect cannot be stacked with Adloquium.

Both Succor and Nocturnal Aspected Helios shields are 150%, and both have a cure potency of 150

The rest are all standard. I know its more of a courtesy but as long as people are getting healed then does it really matter? Especially when the other healer almost always does straight DPS if they see the other person Main Healing. I understand it's annoying but I don't know. I'm just used to going with the flow I guess.

It matters because you waste MP, and if you're going to do that, you may as well DPS instead.

But whoa, it's been an eye opener to see the disparity in healing. I feel bad for sprout healers, especially if they are new to the game. I mean, you got that water ball spell, you must be expected to use Fluid Aura, right? I felt particularly bad for a sprout in one of the lowest level dungeons who 1) didn't heal the tank, 2) didn't rez the tank, 3) started pulling stuff as the tank lay dead, 4) knocked things away with FA after the tank pulled them, (repeat). I wish I could have typed faster...

That's what PoTD teaches people. Zerg things.

[Ilenya]

It should work like this:
so AST's Aspected Benefic creates a weaker shield than Adloqium,

Not quite true. Without a Crit, Noct Ast Benefic is actually a stronger shield that Adloquium, but as a Crit, Adlo is better. Either way, still shouldn't be going Noct with a SCH, just wanted to correct an error.

Using direct potency, Non-crit SCH shield is a 300 potency heal and a 300 potency shield. Non-crit Noct Ast Benefic is a 200 heal with 450 shield (I think I have that math right. It was one of those ASt changes that made people wonder if SE forgot that SCH had the shields. Also ignoring the healing bonus from Noct Sect, but bleh on that math.)

[Jijifli]

Really? Sometimes I'm not paying attention right off or the tank just runs and pulls and I don't have time to switch or adjust to the other healer. Sch pretty much only has the two heals with shields (just like AST). The rest are all standard. I know its more of a courtesy but as long as people are getting healed then does it really matter? Especially when the other healer almost always does straight DPS if they see the other person Main Healing. I understand it's annoying but I don't know. I'm just used to going with the flow I guess.

Assuming you're a BLM main, based on your card, let me give a small example. And yes at first it's not going to make sense.

Imagine someone telling you in a party you aren't allowed to cast Fire IV. At all. If you cast it you're removed. You wouldn't just go along with it, right? Because that's stupid, that's part of your kit and you should be using it, right?

That's how SCH's feel every time an ast goes noct. You're basically telling the sch they aren't allowed to use part of their kit.

[ko_]

I feel like people understate how hard/demanding a DPS life actually is. So many people praise/kiss up to tanks and healers it blows my mind at times. I'm not talking about anyone here.. just what I notice overall. I been in parties where DPS get shit on and at the same time horrible tanks that think this is sonic the hedgehog doing spin dashes get pats on the head. Meanwhile you're just a little below 5k or whatever and you're kicked, shamed, bullied, and everything under the sun as a DPS. I know that can be different for everyone as I've seen the statement DPS gets away with not aoeing, being bad and what have you. But it just seems like we DPS get the short end of the stick. We have to work so hard to even be noticed while a normal - not even good- tank or healer gets all the hugs for just doing their job.

This isn't about anything I'm just venting from what I've seen. Maybe thats why so many people use DPS meters cause without them ALOT of DPS wouldn't be noticed for good OR bad. But I'll end this with a question. Why is that? I'm only seeing part of it cause I'm a DPS? I know people say - healing and tanking is more work- but I think it's all the same. no role works harder than another one.. we ALL have to do our part to kick butt. but maybe I'm just only seeing it this way cause ... I'm a monk.

[Erandill]

I also stopped doing main scenario roulette. I think their solution is very dumb. Punish all the devoted players because a few noobs complained. Why did they not come up with a better solution? Like have the option to join skippable or non-skippable? It was very good xp for over 60 characters but I did it once and wont do it again after the chnage.