What's your first impression of Eureka?

[Vstarstruck]

Um what? I honestly cannot see the issue here. It isn't as if Eureka is somehow the only instanced content that you can't join up with specific existing parties already inside the instance. Dungeons and trials and raids etc are all like this. 1.0 came out in 2010, CRZ was introduced to WoW in 2012 in MoP. CRZ is also with the zones (hence cross-realm zones) which SE has used similar technology to alleviate zone congestion on launches and also uses similar tech for cross realm party finder.

"but I don't see them coming up with a way to join people inside an instance when you're outside of it."
And yet you are showing why there should be ways and having the possibility there.

Also you can't compare CRZ with the split clones of those zones. In wow's CRZ, everyone is in the same instance that are partied together, in that situation you detailed, if you teleported to the zone, it was more likely then not (Since it is something like 10% chance of 2 people getting the same thing when each is given 3 choices) not in the same zone, where WoW's CRZ pulls the party in the same zone on its own without menus.

Point, I do not know how this game is so behind the times when it comes to functionality.

And of course they won't let you trade them because reasons. If there's one thing we absolutely can't have, it's a semblance of a functional economy

I hope this is sarcasm? If it is not I am defiantly confused.

[SDaemon]

"but I don't see them coming up with a way to join people inside an instance when you're outside of it."
And yet you are showing why there should be ways and having the possibility there.

Also you can't compare CRZ with the split clones of those zones. In wow's CRZ, everyone is in the same instance that are partied together, in that situation you detailed, if you teleported to the zone, it was more likely then not (Since it is something like 10% chance of 2 people getting the same thing when each is given 3 choices) not in the same zone, where WoW's CRZ pulls the party in the same zone on its own without menus.

Point, I do not know how this game is so behind the times when it comes to functionality.

How am I showing why there should be ways and having the possibility? What exactly is the issue with the current set up? You want to play with your friends? Group with your friends and enter. One of your friends comes online and wants to join you in dungeons, raiding, eureka and you are already inside an instance? Leave the instance and join up with them and re-enter. With how instances are handled in this game it makes complete sense why you cannot pick and choose an instance to join.

And yes you can compare CRZ to what XIV does with their instanced zones and cross realm party finder grouping as they are based on similar concepts. WoW CRZ has more than its fair share of problems. If you aren't in a group when you cross zones you can end up in different phasing despite being on the same server, among several other issues the WoW community has complained about over the years. CRZ in WoW has had far more criticism attached to it than I've seen of this "issue" of instances in XIV.

[Vstarstruck]

How am I showing why there should be ways and having the possibility? What exactly is the issue with the current set up? You want to play with your friends? Group with your friends and enter. One of your friends comes online and wants to join you in dungeons, raiding, eureka and you are already inside an instance? Leave the instance and join up with them and re-enter. With how instances are handled in this game it makes complete sense why you cannot pick and choose an instance to join.

And yes you can compare CRZ to what XIV does with their instanced zones and cross realm party finder grouping as they are based on similar concepts. WoW CRZ has more than its fair share of problems. If you aren't in a group when you cross zones you can end up in different phasing despite being on the same server, among several other issues the WoW community has complained about over the years. CRZ in WoW has had far more criticism attached to it than I've seen of this "issue" of instances in XIV.

Really? you do not see the issue with leaving the people you are partied up with already? or friends from different server? You are also supporting an inconvenience because SE wants to run on 10 year old tech why?

For "How am I showing why there should be ways and having the possibility?":
"but I don't see them coming up with a way to join people inside an instance when you're outside of it."
"which SE has used similar technology to alleviate zone congestion on launches and also uses similar tech for cross realm party finder. "
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[SDaemon]

Really? you do not see the issue with leaving the people you are partied up with already? or friends from different server? You are also supporting an inconvenience because SE wants to run on 10 year old tech why?

For "How am I showing why there should be ways and having the possibility?":
"but I don't see them coming up with a way to join people inside an instance when you're outside of it."
"which SE has used similar technology to alleviate zone congestion on launches and also uses similar tech for cross realm party finder. "
????????????

Leaving the people you partied with? I am trying to understand your issue here. Are you talking about the people you shouted and grouped with in Eureka? So you joined a Eureka instance, joined a group within the instance and then want your friend to be able to join that instance so they can join your party?

I don't even know how to address the rest of your post as I still cannot see what it is you are trying to argue.

Honestly, from my standpoint you are attacking the system for being what is it while comparing it to a system from WoW (that has more then its fair share of flaws) and calling what XIV has outdated and inconvenient, ignoring that CRZ in WoW is inconvenient in several ways as well. Why are you praising CRZ so much?

[Kalitzo]

This area really needs a level sync system for grouping up with lower levels and it needs better incentive to party via killing mobs. This area is almost like FFXI it needs some face lifts.

[Avatre]

This area really needs a level sync system for grouping up with lower levels and it needs better incentive to party via killing mobs. This area is almost like FFXI it needs some face lifts.

The level sync would be great. I have a few friends who haven't gotten into Eureka yet(they're taking a break due to life), and I want to be able to help them, but can't without just taking them along to the train, and hoping that they can get leveled somewhat decently.

As for the incentive to party kill, they need to balance the EXPM received better. Getting anywhere from 5-25exp for the same mob, in a party of 8, is way too varying. Make it more like the dungeons where you get X EXP for the mob, and each party member - as long as they hit it at all - gets the same EXP.

[Alleo]

ATM, in my server, any tradeable item is worthless so I'm not sure about a functional economy. I guessing current system is like that to keep people farming, the other option is lowering the drop even more.

But thats only for those items that already drop on mass. The T-Rex would probably be millions worth, the same with the barding. So it would give people that want to earn gil reasons to go back to farm them and those that dont care for the content or have really bad luck can just buy it.

[Kalitzo]

As for the incentive to party kill, they need to balance the EXPM received better. Getting anywhere from 5-25exp for the same mob, in a party of 8, is way too varying. Make it more like the dungeons where you get X EXP for the mob, and each party member - as long as they hit it at all - gets the same EXP.

I feel level sync would fix that issue because you would all be the same level. Right now there is always a 2-3 level difference so that's where you're seeing the lower exp. I mean I could be wrong haha wouldn't be the first time.

[Avatre]

I feel level sync would fix that issue because you would all be the same level. Right now there is always a 2-3 level difference so that's where you're seeing the lower exp. I mean I could be wrong haha wouldn't be the first time.

Those numbers came from when I first entered(everyone except the tank was level 1, the tank was level 5 - party of 8). Some others were saying they were getting 30+ EXP(healer included) on level 5 monsters, while I was getting 5-25, actively smacking everything with AoEs because we were doing bigger pulls.

[Altanas]

After just two weeks or so I've noticed that I am now only going to Eureka for Pazuzu. Even though I have enough feathers for every weapon, I use Pazuzu for its generous crystal and lockbox drops too. And come Tuesday for its mendacity.

I feel that while the amount of grind required was not that lengthy (due to the FATE train), I do appreciate that it has a gotta catch em all effect, you can grind out all the weapons in the time it takes to do one 3.x relic for example.
I do feel that the developers could have added more onto the tail end of the content.

A simple addition could have been to allow us to grind to change the colour of our weapon glows.

There are six different elemental affinities in Eureka all with their own colour. Personally I dislike the purple (thunder) glow on my DRG weapon, why not let me grind 1000 mobs of a different colour say yellow (earth) and then allow the glow to take on that element's colour

I wouldn't spend a massive amount of time there, but at least it would give me another casual week of content to do.